Bobby=4187866 You are an insensitive ass to say what you did. This Lady brought happiness to so many over the years and was the gold standard of voices for almost 20 years running. That being said, what have you done that is worth mentioning other than show everyone on the blog what and absolute jerk you can be. Get a life and get in to the good habit of not saying anything if you have nothing good to say!!! I hope that when you drop dead someone as stupid as you comes off with some choice remarks about what a boring life you lived and why no one should care.
A fantastic talent who was smiled upon by fame and fortune after coming down a long celebrated road of musical heritage and linage and then traveling the lonly and dead end road of drugs and loss. May she finally rest in peace in the arms of the Lord.
Ms. Houston was a Goddess with a blinding talent; it is tragic that this world simply didn't anchor her. I will think of her as singing with the Angels now. Farewell Whitney
Way back, when MTV played music videos, I remember Whitney wearing a skin tight silver dress ... what a fantastic body. A beautiful woman with a glorious voice. What a tragedy. Sad, sad, sad ...
I will never understand how people with the gifts of talent, fame, and fortune need drugs to boot. I can understand some people using drugs or alcohol to escape the sad reality of their lives once in awhile, but what do people with incredible talent, fame, and vast fortunes have to escape, what a sad waste of a God given talent and all the potential for good that accompanies such a gift.
Forrest Grump 2.0 - I used to have the same sentiments you have. What I have observed over the years is that if you look at the lives of the most successful people, they are in part successful because they are overcompensating for low self-esteem.
The most successful people usually have the most emotional issues to overcome. Drugs and alcohol help to "numb" the pain and anxiety of living their daily lives. Fame and fortune do not fill the void of not feeling loved or worthy.
Forrest Gump - To answer your question, it is the demands and pressure that comes with all that fame that they try to escape. I am in no way condoning or approving of drug use, I am just trying to point out that being rich and famous has it's drawbacks like anything else. Imagine never knowing if someone really likes you and wants to be a friend or is just looking for something from you. Imagine never knowing who you can trust. Sometimes you can't even trust family. Imagine the constant pressure to be perfect all the time and keep up the image that has been created around you.
It is sad that someone with such a wonderful gift fell prey to drugs and died at such a young age. I think that her marriage to Bobby Brown was the beginning of her downfall. I am sure that the stress in their marriage was at least partly responsible for her drug use. Instead of being the one person she could relax around, he became just one more source of stress in her life. Unfortunately she turned to drugs to deal with that stress. If only she had someone she could turn to instead of turning to the drugs.
This is a great loss to music, although the loss really occurred years ago when the drugs destroyed her voice and her life. There was always a hope that she could get back on track and contribute to music in other ways besides singing. Unfortunately, that chance is now gone as well.
It IS sad, and a waste of talent and life. However, it is most likely a consequence of a life lived not respecting ones body. Even if, and lets give her the benefit of the doubt, she wasn't currently using, all that abuse damaged her body. It's a lesson to teach our kids, especially daughters. The "bad boys" aren't always misunderstood, sometimes they are just bad for you.
Catalyst it seems that the success and fame would validate them and quell the question of them not measuring up in some way, especially when the talent is as enormous as it was in the case of Whitney. I have attained a moderate level of success and a good reputation in my chosen field (fame if you will) now it is nothing remotely in the order of a movie star but my point is I think I was able to achieve that because if anything I had an inordinate amount of self esteem and did not want to tarnish that by failure to achieve less than what I expected of myself. I don't understand how they don't feel loved when millions of people love them and are in awe of what they can do. There must be something to what you say because there sure are a lot of rich and famous people that kill themselves with drugs and alcohol. If I was that rich and famous I might kill myself with thick steaks and cheesecakes.
Forrest Gump, I think sometimes that level of fame and success is very isolating, which only further makes things difficult. In a way, it's hard for them to know who their true friends are; it would be almost impossible to have a romantic relationship.
I think you are very right Summer. Can you imagine all of the hanger on people that you would have to try and make sure are true??? whitney was awesome but did not have it in her to stop cocaine. That is so very sad.
JS in SD everybody has pressure how about the pressure of feeding, clothing and educating 4 kids, on a modest income, we all have to perform to some-body's satisfaction, and deal with people that only want something from us. I don't feel as bad for the people with the pressure of fame as I do young people trying to raise a family in this economy and present day lack of respect and incredibly low wages for workers. Hell they can not afford the luxury of drugs to escape the harsh reality of life if they are so inclined. It is not like she was financially trapped in a bad marriage these people have all the means to help themselves if they so desire. I'm sure fame and fortune has it's own unique challenges but I find it hard to feel sorry for those who let the pinnacle of success ruin them, I have a hard time understanding how being a big winner can turn anybody into a self destructive loser. It happens a lot, I just don't understand it.
The greatest female vocalist of all time. You will be missed. Condolencenses to the family and Bobby Brown as I am sure he is hurting from this tragedy as well.
Forrest Gump, you say, "I can understand some people using drugs or alcohol to escape the sad reality of their lives once in awhile". While using drugs and alcholol once in a while might be manageable by some people, others have a true physical addiction that is based on their biochemical makeup. All the fame and fortune cannot change this. This doesn't excuse the life long destructiveness some people have with drugs, but if you're not predisposed to that physical addiction you will never know what it is like.
As I've said many times, there are rarely simple answers for anything, as much as we would like for there to be. I seriously doubt there was one reason for Ms. Houston's drug use-it was likely much more complicated. Drugs, alcohol, and many other things can be used as numbing behaviors to help a person cope with various stresses, upsets, agonies, and other things in life. Sometimes people who do not turn to drugs or alcohol for numbing may feel superior to those who do, but they may be using something else as their personal numbing behavior-such as food, shopping, TV, gaming, starving, reading, computer, even excessive religion (by "religion" I mean the outward observation of various rules or dogma). Probably all of us use numbing behaviors to some degree, and some are more destructive than others. The problem is when a numbing behavior becomes maladaptive.
Forest, I've learned that no one can really comment on what another person is experiencing as far as pain or pressure is concerned unless they have been in that person's shoes. It's easy to play the "I've suffered more than you" game, but it's not a valid game. There is no way to measure someone else's suffering and compare it to your own. Besides, how much do you REALLY know about Ms. Houston's life?
My condolences to Ms. Houston's family and loved ones.
I just listened to Whitney's version of "I will always love you" from "the bodyguard" and right at the very end of the song she hits the same note in three different octaves, it's simply incredible, it makes me sad.
Forrest...all of her songs are online to listen too..its just that it will cost you to download anyone of them..unless your doing a P2P for a couple of them only.
I think you are very right Summer. Can you imagine all of the hanger on people that you would have to try and make sure are true??? whitney was awesome but did not have it in her to stop cocaine. That is so very sad.
cmach, There is no way I could imagine living like that. Surrounded by so many people; but, all alone and isolated.
I just listened to Whitney's version of "I will always love you" from "the bodyguard" and right at the very end of the song she hits the same note in three different octaves, it's simply incredible, it makes me sad.
Forrest Grump 2.0 (I think I misspelled your name earlier, sorry for that): it is amazing, isn't it? It's very sad that she died.
Summer.. From what I understand, there re so many people who want a piece of you , that it is crazy... Whitney and others have to had been going nuts dealing with them all.
This should make a powerful TV ad about not using drugs.
Hope that d*bag Bobbie Brown is proud of himself. He destroyed one amazing talent by introducing her to drugs and abusing her the way he did. I hope someone (besides Brown) takes good care of Whitney's daughter.
"Forest, I've learned that no one can really comment on what another person is experiencing as far as pain or pressure is concerned unless they have been in that person's shoes. It's easy to play the "I've suffered more than you" game, but it's not a valid game. There is no way to measure someone else's suffering and compare it to your own. Besides, how much do you REALLY know about Ms. Houston's life?"
I know she did not have a child with terminal cancer, I know she did not have a teenager killed in a car accident, I know she did not have a son killed or maimed in Iraq.
I am not comparing her suffering to mine personally, I have been relatively lucky in this life, however I know people personally who have suffered much more from things they had no control over than her suffrage from a marriage to Bobby Brown, or managing the stress of incredible success. Yes I am sad for her, but yes I will make that comparison, go to the cancer unit, look at the brave little kids getting their treatments look at their broken hearted parents and then wonder how they get through it. I sure as hell would be ashamed to discuss the difficultly of dealing with fame and fortune with them.
Whitney Houston was truly a songbird. She was one of a small number of music artists that could sing in 8 octaves. Unlike so many recording artists, Whitney Houston did not need a computer to "sing" for her. She was physically beautiful, divinely musically gifted, spirited and she brought astounding joy to so many of her fans.
Whitney Houston's death is a major Loss to the world of music.
She truly was one of a kind in a field that has become too cluttered...
Rest in peace, angel...you are now in God's hands...
Yes, Whitney was a good girl and hooked up with a bad boy who turned her out on drugs plus Bobby was her first love. It still doesn't pay to be a people pleaser sometimes you have to draw the line and say no to drugs.
No she did not have an 8 octave range, in her prime she could span 5 octaves, which is truly incredible, I don't think there has ever been a singer with an 8 octave range, most musical instruments have much less than an 8 octave range. She could sing with power and clarity seemingly effortlessly across 3 octaves. Her gift, her talent was truly astounding.
I'm very hurt to hear something like this. She was a good person, singer, mother. I loved all her music, movies, etc. Her former husband should suffer because he brought this on. I hope her daughter would grow up and live a christian life.
Our most talented singers and musicians are being eaten up by illegal or prescription Drugs; actors and actresses, as well.
What has happened? during the last 20 years?--Everything is in excess---for them---too much money, no direction, and crooks who could care less about their welfare, taking care of them--including doctors who are too willing to be their caretakers by giving them illegal anesthesia in their homes/thousands of pills going from dr. to dr. getting the drugs they crave.
This plague has to STOP--it will affect our own children, by their example of lifestyle.
Why isn't there Someone in the Industry who represents the ills of drugs, alcohol, and "whip-its" (Demi Moore), the last being Michael Jackson, and Anna Nicole Smith. All the Rappers who have died..
It is the money that these Beverly Hills doctors want; not caring about the Hippocratic Oath they took entering this Profession.
I will miss Whitney Houston and her music so much---she was gorgeous, a large talent. Her family must be so sad. Dionne Warwick is her Aunt--my condolences to the Houston family, and to the daughter she left behind.
This did not have to happen---out of control, with too much money, out of control lives, i.e. Gary Busey bankrupt. What do they do with their money that flows so freely---
Forest Grump 2.0., why do you even have to ask the question as to why someone or anyone with her level of fame should need to resort to drugs? If you do, then you must not have any capacity for empathy or, adopting a different perspective. There are hundreds of possible reasons. If you can never understand them then, you must be exceptionally narrow minded. But, I doubt if you are. Of what I have not doubt is, that you are being arrogant and judgemental. What you are saying is, look at me, I am tough. I would never resort to drugs if I were in her position.
I'm trying to figure out how all of these actors (think Demi in recent news), Sheen, and Whitney get their drugs. I can't imagine they just drive around a bad neighborhood...I know they have money and can get what they want but the dealers to the stars need to be brought down. There is something more sleazy about that drug dealer then the guy on the corner selling to random folks who come to them. Is there some type of underground delivery system? Who's running the drugs? Clearly other people (bodyguards, housekeepers) are involved and aware - and are just as guilty as the drug dealer. Just think the dealers need to be brought down soon. RIP Whitney - I grew up listening to you and adore your music.
@Where, Imagine if you will, A Place trapped in Time, Where people like Tony Montana actually exsist. They make millions of dollars each year, and live in 5 million dollar homes. If we were serious about stopping Drugs (instead of the occasional 55 kilos that makes the police / or the coast guard look good) thats a drop in the bucket of what is actually available coming across the borders, in the ports, on the planes, in the boxes. Unless we somehow decide to AGENT ORANGE every poppy, cocaine, or other fields that produce these products, It's not really a problem, as the dirty money from these operations pays for dynasties, presidency, and dictators elaborate lifestyles.
It will remain PARTY CANDY for the Fabulously Rich and Famous. (John Belushi, Sam Kinison 1, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson *, Jim Morrison, Dana Plato, River Phoenix, Judy Garland, Britany Murphy, Corey Haim, Sid Viscious, Marilyn Monroe * Amy Winehouse 3 and so many more)
1:Kinison was "in Recovery" when he was struck and killed by a Drunk Driver Ironically
*Mystery and Conspiracy surround their deaths, one stated suicide, one stated murder, both with drugs they shouldn't have been able to acquire legally.
3. Alcohol Related
I have not yet seen any reports from the Cause of death yet on WhitneyI would guess, since she was in Hollywood for the Grammy's, It was a mixture of alcohol and drugs. RIP Whitney, wish her surviving family well during this time. She had a great and powerful voice.
It has been said, via TV discussions tonight, the real truth of her death will never be told. She is considered a VIP Public person.
There will be a cover-up of the truth--Doctors, Coroners, Police tend to give these Music Stars and Actresses "dignity" as to why they died. They have special privileges; a changed named on a bottle of drugs/going from one dr. to the other; assuming fake names, etc, when obtaining their killer mixtures, or accidents. The average citizen cannot do this--.
This is a once again an eye-opener. There are more of these drug deaths, since public communication has become world wide, thus the computer age. Many years ago, it was not as contagious a disease, of one star, dying after another in such short periods of time.
Forrest Grump; if you look at the history of drugs, you will see that drugs help open ones mind, not remove it from reality. Anything not done in moderation can kill you, and, when was the last time a narrow mind ever helped someone?
Through out history there always had to be a first, who knows how many had to die before they learned what was okay for you and what wasn't. When it comes to drugs; if you approach doing them with a closed angry mind - you will have a bad experience. It is better to teach others the reality of drugs than to use scare tactics. Some cultures that taught the use of drugs the right way, learned what drugs were okay and how much to use to get a nice buzz. Cultures who teach drugs the wrong way, never learn what moderation is.
Trying to get as high as you can is proof that those using the drug/booze got bad advice from mis-informed people. The more you conceal - the less you learn....this dumbing down cycle needs to end.
I will never understand how people with the gifts of talent, fame, and fortune need drugs to boot. I can understand some people using drugs or alcohol to escape the sad reality of their lives once in awhile, but what do people with incredible talent, fame, and vast fortunes have to escape,
Talent, fame and fortune are no guarantee to happiness. Why is it hard to understand that one can still get depressed, sad, or lonely even though one has all the money and fame in the world? In fact, having money and fame can tend to isolate a person even more. Whitney was just a person like anyone else, and as such, had the same flaws, pain, and insecurities we all experience.
TYVM!! At her prime, she did have 5 octaves!! (As does Mariah Carey, but not as powerful...)(for those who don't know this is a once-in-a-generation voice. Celine Dion only has, like 3.5..) Totally Incredible!! She will be missed. Even Dolly is hurt....(Singing "annd Iiiiiiiiieeiiiiii will always love youuuuuueeewweuuuuuu!!)
She did have issues, but that doesn't diminish her talent...... EVER, by anyone!! R.I.P. Whitney, and thanks for exposing me to a wonderful talent.....
Yeaah, yeah We all know already. Can you focus on more negativity?? Kieth Moon, Jimi H,. Janice J. Kurt C., And plenty more talented musicians have done worse..........
w3423, Amy Winehouse's death is listed as alcohol poisoning although "the investigation MAY be reopened, if that's what Amy's family wants" due to the "coroner's qualifications being questioned".
You reap what you sow. Sorry for the loss, but you could probably had a nice long life if you would had kept your head on your shoulders, stayed away from drugs and alcohol. Destructive life bring destructive results.
Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust and another ones gone and another ones gone, another crackhead bites the dust! Hey, they're gonna get you to, another crackhead bites the dust...Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust.....
How's that, @Unbelievable?
I do this because she CANNOT compare to the aforementioned ARTISTS that you mentioned. She was a hypocrite that preached to people to stay away from drugs and she was using them herself! Not long ago, she got busted at the Kona airport in Hawaii with a half ounce of pakalolo in her carry-on, but because of her "STAR" status, she was let onto the plane and allowed to leave.
you people are all clueless! I'm glad you are all so perfect. But someday someone in your life will succumb to this god awful disease. and then you will know! until then. stay as perfect and judgemental as u are!
Actually this story is not surprising at all and anyone that acts surprised hasn't paid attention to her downfall since 1986, when she made her last hit album. A God given talent which was given to her and she chose drugs and booze instead. The only one I feel sorry for in this whole situation is her daughter. A daughter who had to grow up and endure the pain of living with an addict and watch them throw their lives away. A daughter who probably spent most of her childhood clean up after her mom. I hope Whitney does RIP, but she made the choice (over her daughter) to walk down the dark ugly road.
What we KNOW is that Whitney Houston had an incredible voice. We KNOW that she used it to provide us with some incredible music.
What we do not know is what was inside of her. Success and fame can be too much for some people. We have seen it repeatedly in the world of entertainment. The names of those gone too soon are legion. I suspect that once you have achieved a certain level of greatness, any slip off can be devestating. I remember reading something about Elvis being concerned because he was just singing the same old songs that he always sung and people were still coming out to see him. But, he did not feel that he was the same guy. He felt that something was wrong.
When entertainers try to live up to their own unrealistic expectations or those of the public, it is often too much. The reality is that they live in an unreal world. How many of us go to work and get a standing ovation at the end of each days performance? If you notice, the ones that stay grounded just dont seem to get as caught up in the hype.
Bottom line-we are all human, no matter how much talent we have. As such, we are subject to the human condition which is one of imperfection.
So, Whitney shoul be lokked at for who she was-an incredible talent and a human being.
She was a talented lady, who will be missed by her family and the world. She, like so many other talented people, found herself surrounded with the WRONG people. Celebrities can't really live normal lives, because of their fame, end up living surrounded by their inner circle who too often will do anything to maintain their place, even feed them a diet of alcohol/drugs. Haven't we lost enough talented people this way?
She was one of my main idols. I have sung "I will Always Love You" in many contests and was able to walk away with top prizes every time. I, too, have a huge vocal range, which is why I could sing that song in the first place. My heart is so heavy right now. I watched the Oprah interview and knew then that she was not off of drugs. Bobby Brown, may you rot in hell! I know ultimately it was her choice to pick up the pipe, snort the line, etc., but I cannot help but wonder what if she had never met him.......I hope her daughter will not follow in their footsteps. May you finally rest in peace, sweet songbird. You were one of a kind, and a true gift from God, if I ever heard one.
Forrest Gump - To answer your question, it is the demands and pressure that comes with all that fame that they try to escape.
I agree, JS. When a singer/ actor/ athlete gets to the level Whitney reached, the thrill of hard-won success, the demands on their time and the pressure to top their last CD or performance can be an emotional roller coaster. The people around them, managers and hangers-on, even family and friends, become dependent on their career success and sometimes push them beyond their limits. They lose their anonymity and can't live a normal life anymore.
Then out come the drugs, to provide energy, to lull them to sleep, to provide escape from the pressure. Sadly, the celebs have doctors who are more than willing to give them anything and everything they want. Michael Jackson comes to mind here.
I'm very sorry for Whitney Houston and all her family and friends. I doubt her death will make even a dent in the drug culture that celebs are prey to. I also doubt any teenager who's thinking about doing drugs will be scared off by her death.
Mourn the loss of a remarkable talent; an exceptionally gifted artist; and most of all a human being, who could only express the range of that talent because she was a loving and sensitive person. My condolences to Ms. Houston's family!
I'm a saxophone player that actually played with Whitney Houston, she toured right after The Bodyguard and she was so good to the band, theirs families, to my children, she took to my daughter and let her into her dressing room before the show and my daughter cherishes her autograph.
She was a great person, that eventually, unfortunately had personal setbacks that eventually turned into personal tragedy. It was a blessing to have known her, she was truly a wonderful person, an incredible talented artist, with a warm, loving, open heart.
Whitney, we will 'Always Love You' Rest in peace little angel and now you are with God and in peace.
Our family thoughts and prayers got to out to Whitney and her family.
The two greatest male & female singers were Freddie Mercury & Whitney Houston. Both 4 plus octave ranges, both could go high, both deep and powerful. May they RIP.
I know she did not have a child with terminal cancer, I know she did not have a teenager killed in a car accident, I know she did not have a son killed or maimed in Iraq.
I am not comparing her suffering to mine personally, I have been relatively lucky in this life, however I know people personally who have suffered much more from things they had no control over than her suffrage from a marriage to Bobby Brown, or managing the stress of incredible success. Yes I am sad for her, but yes I will make that comparison, go to the cancer unit, look at the brave little kids getting their treatments look at their broken hearted parents and then wonder how they get through it. I sure as hell would be ashamed to discuss the difficultly of dealing with fame and fortune with them.
Your point is valid, Forrest Grump. No matter how much admiration for her talent and/or sympathy for her difficulties one might have, Whitney Houston did not cope with her challenges in such a way as to inspire others with her courage. Her weakness killed her in the end. Her life and death should be a cautionary tale to those who might wish to have her fame, talent and fortune.
It should be clear that happiness does not result from becoming rich and famous.
I for one, am more shocked that Lindsay Lohan is still alive, then Whitney being dead. I have seen video of her from the past few days, and even thought to myself that she was going to die very soon. She just had that look. Sad that she left her child without a mother. Personally, I have no love for anyone who chooses being a scumbag over raising their children properly, whether they are addicts, are manipulative, choose a partner over their children, etc. My hope is that her daughter gets far, far away from her father. Take a passage from Frances Bean, Bobbi, and run far, far away, as fast as you can.
No average person has the pressure to "Publicly Perform by Contract" as actors, actresses, musicians.
Yes, they are "different".
Their Agents are hired to watch over them, while most of the clients are so messed up with drug addiction, alcohol, young performers parents stealing their own young child's money--telling them it is being protected, or Accountants who embezzle their fortune to benefit themselves.
The Industry has very uneducated talented people who trust others taking care of them, especially their finances--the caretaker Professional attitude is 'so what"---Let them go at the drugs, i.e. Michael Jackson and his personal Cardiologist Dr. "Who Cares"? They want the Money, not caring for who they are employed by. The Professionals are "Quacks" in their Profession.
"paramedics who were at the hotel because of a Grammy party."
So they station emergency medical personnel at the hotel because there was a Grammy party. They EXPECT some whack job celebrity to do something like this. What a bunch of frickin losers. Let them all off themselves and good ridance if that's the kind of people they are.
Ok, a 48 year old woman died. That is a tragedy. However, there is a lot of other stuff going on in the world that deserve a lot more media attention than a single celebrity in America dying. Athens is burning because of protestors. Iran is trying to start a war with Israel. Canada is becoming best buddies with China.
Come on America! Put down the remote and the Cheetos and wake up!
No she did not have an 8 octave range, in her prime she could span 5 octaves, which is truly incredible, I don't think there has ever been a singer with an 8 octave range, most musical instruments have much less than an 8 octave range. She could sing with power and clarity seemingly effortlessly across 3 octaves. Her gift, her talent was truly astounding.
Forrest,
During Whitney Houston's prime, it was stated more than once, that she was able to sing in 8 octaves.
Another well-known female artist is known to sing in 5 Octaves.
Whitney's voice range was clearly superior to the female artist that can sing in the 5 voice range.
With the astounding talent that Whitney Houston had, it is not unfathomable that her voice glazed 8 Octaves.
I know she did not have a child with terminal cancer, I know she did not have a teenager killed in a car accident, I know she did not have a son killed or maimed in Iraq.
I am not comparing her suffering to mine personally, I have been relatively lucky in this life, however I know people personally who have suffered much more from things they had no control over than her suffrage from a marriage to Bobby Brown, or managing the stress of incredible success. Yes I am sad for her, but yes I will make that comparison, go to the cancer unit, look at the brave little kids getting their treatments look at their broken hearted parents and then wonder how they get through it. I sure as hell would be ashamed to discuss the difficultly of dealing with fame and fortune with them.
Your point is valid, Forrest Grump. No matter how much admiration for her talent and/or sympathy for her difficulties one might have, Whitney Houston did not cope with her challenges in such a way as to inspire others with her courage. Her weakness killed her in the end.
Why are there posters, here, so eager to denigrate Whitney Houston?
She was a gifted music artist - who was HUMAN.
All human beings can fall in life.
To the folks who are criticizing Whitney, did you disparage Amy Winehouse and Elvis in the same way?
I am sympathetic to anyone who is in pain, real or imagined. It is a part of the human condition and comparing the types, levels and depths of pain is meaningless. You can only know the pain that a person is in if you are that person. There is a reason that so many young stars end their lives tragically. While it might seem logical to discount their pain as that of overindulged and misdirected people, it is pain nevertheless.
Just as we should not diminish another's greatness to enhance our own, so should we not diminish another's pain to make ours greater. Each pain exists within its own right.
godbassistThe love she speaded in music will over shadow any of her shortfalls. Even your stupid comment clb-462357
What's exactly stupid about the comment? That her daughter probably didn't have a childhood because that's what happens when you live with an addict. That I grieve for her daughter and not Whitney? Hell, Whitney was an adult and had choices, her daughter was a child and didn't.
Shortfall!!!! Are you kidding me?! She was an addict for YEARS!!! She was arrested on several occassion. At one time Child Services thought about taking their child away because the situation was so bad. She married a loser. She hasn't had a hit single for over TWO DECADES!!! That means two generations have no idea who she is. And looks like she was also broke, happens when you're an addict. Oh I loved her music, own all her 80's albums and yes she achieved quite a bit in the few years she was on top and she had a gorgeous voice and she'll go into the Hall of Fame & should. But short falls, no, she royally screwed up her life and her daughter's life up.
But what's stupid is people sit on this board acting as if they are so surprised, worst yet making excuses for her behavior, "oh I'll miss her music"... when she hasn't had a hit since the late 80's. How can you miss something that isn't there. Here hit singles will play long after she's been gone, just as those that went before her.
Or the excuse "stardom got to her", IMO, the greatest female singer of all time was not Whitney, but was and is Barbara Streisand, who by the way, didn't in any way go down the road as a drug addict. And many other women who's voices are unbelievable, Celine Dion comes to mind also, and she also did not go down that road. There are two many other women for our daughters to look up to who didn't take the wrong fork in the road.
Forrest, During Whitney Houston's prime, it was stated more than once, that she was able to sing in 8 octaves. Another well-known female artist is known to sing in 5 Octaves.
Actual Forrest is correct and those that state Whitney had an 8 octave or sang continually in a 5 Octave are incorrect and probablly have little knowledge on what an octave actually is. Octaves are arranged C D E F G A B and then C’. There are 8 octaves on the piano and to count octaves you start with the lowest note and count to the same note in the next octave until you get the range. Now in order for Whitney to sing all eight octaves she’d have to be able to sing several notes lower than what any man can which is impossible even for someone with her range. Whitney has a 3 octave range (C3 to C6–she did C6 on How Will I Know) which is lower than both Mariah and Aguilera.
A singer’s true range is measured by the number of notes they can actually SING–not necessarily HIT and Whitney has never ever been an Octave 8, nor has any woman singer or could they even do it.
I stand by my earlier comment. You don't know someone else's pain unless you have actually been in their shoes. Everyone experiences pain differently. Some people have naturally higher pain tolerances than others-we all know that. That does not mean that the other person is not legitimately feeling more pain. It's all in a person's makeup. It's easy to feel superior, but one can never know how one would react in a given situation unless one is actually there. Additionally, many here seem to think they know everything there is to know about Ms. Houston's life-however, I can assure you that all you know about her is her public image and/or what the media wanted you to know, even the bits about her drug use. Not a single one of you knows what went on in her private life when she was all alone and/or when the cameras were turned off-nor do you really know about her life before she became a big star. In other words, you don't know enough about her to comment on what kind of pain she might have been in. Losing a child is not the only thing that can cause emotional trauma.
The grieving was appropriate many years ago. She's been gone for a long time. She insisted upon her right to her attitude and her drug use. She paid the price for both.
I'm sorry for her family. I deal with an alcoholic every day. This is not a tragedy. If she was living straight and became fatally ill, that would be a tragedy. This was inevitable. Did you see the video from her disastrous cancelled tour in Europe? Sad and disgusting at the same time.
My heart aches for these people who get caught up in drugs. Whitney had the financial ability to put herself into rehab, there are so many out there who have no way out, no way to get help. Drug addict's lives are so sad, it just breaks my heart they are slaves to their drugs. May God watch over all of them.
Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust....
I see your lover(sic) let you out of the bath house to rest your pruney fingers and dance to a crackhead REMAKE of Dolly Parton's "I'll always love you."
I am NOT a resident right-wing and death weirdo... I just call it as I see it... If you can't handle that, then F U!!!
Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust....
I see your lover(sic) let you out of the bath house to rest your pruney fingers and dance to a crackhead REMAKE of Dolly Parton's "I'll always love you."
I am NOT a resident right-wing and death weirdo... I just call it as I see it... If you can't handle that, then F U!!!
Like I said, wackos of the right-wing asylum don't know they're insane ... and they believe they're normal and everyone else is wacked ...
This is why you and your wacko buddies believe your rhetoric is neccessary and *cool* and *entitled* ...
... and * special * ...
... and you actually believe the world will miss you when you can't take anymore of yourself and take yourself outside and off yourself ...
Is anyone going to state the obvious her life went down hill when she met / married Bobby Brown. He got her involved with the GANGSTA lifestyle. I'm sure her family loves him. And yes it's a waste, she was talented and beautiful before him !
So many die due to drugs. Michael Jackson was constantly on drugs. He had a personal Dr. to junk him up. All the entertainment people that has died for NO reason. Way too many to even list here. I guess no brain no gain.
@marzipansii--Right on! For all me know she died because her system couldn't take the transition to a drug-free lifestyle. RIP Whitney. You were the best.
So sad, so tragic to truly lose someone that was so Blessed with Life. She is in God's hands now with no pain, Rest in Peace Whitney. You will be missed yet never forgotten.
@Doug in Reno, It is something we all can wish for, The Odds of her lifestyle are against it tho, and it looks as the coroner will not be quick to release the information (so that the GRAMMY's can promote her LEGEND) and then let the wind blow whicever way after its over.
Chris Benoit of WWE Fame was treated the same way, the first Episode of RAW after his death, where no one knew the truth yet, they dedicated to him, THEN Blackballed him after when they found out it was Murder Suicide. Hollywood probably won't treat Whitney the same, but I suspect she will fade into the back of the Rock n Roll tradgedies on VH1.
It is so very sad that whitney has died. I hope that she made it right with God before she left here. I'm hurt as if I'v lost a sister. I hope that people will let the negative comments die with her;And just remember all of the joy that she brought to our lives. To her family my prayers are with you. WHITNEY WILL BE SADLY MISSED.
I agree. This is way too sad. I don't understand why wealth plus celebrity equals drugs. It is so disheartening. Her music was an inspiration on so many levels. I will surely miss her.
it's because they have inner demons that were around long before their careers ... insecurities, pain .. things we don't know and may not want to know. addicts become addicts because it numbs them and they don't have to FEEL anything. they don't have to face the feelings. so sad.
Drug addiction has no bounds. Just because you have money and fame doesn't make you immune or more susceptible. It is within the person to be an addict as much as it is not to be. Personal accountability is what it boils down to.
its cause they have everything they could want and have nothing else to spend their money on prime example she was broke as a joke she blew her entire fortune on drugs
Not black enough? Not white enough? Come on people who project such aweful sentiments! Wasted? Drugs? Why would enough people torment such a beautiful, sensitive and talented artist to ANY extent?
Not fair. Not right. Not good. Please watch your words of judgment and espoecially for the sake of public humiliation in the future. Did doing so help you feel powerful? Did your words and comments no matter where you allowed them to be manifested help to heal your own wounds by creating wounds within another?
Many have their own internal demons to contend with and do not need the weight of external hatred to top it off. Do you feel you belong? I hope and pray you do. Please, please, please do not behave in ways that strip others literallly from that sense. God bless you and keep each and every one of you. Foregiveness is there for the asking for those of you with whom my statements resonate.
I can imagine that it can be tough having your entire life laid out in front of millions of people. I'm not excusing it by any means, but I can see how people who have problems beforehand would be pushed by living in the public's eye.
Well let me see how did whitney get sick, was it a cold night, We know how she died, dont we bobby, oh Im sorry thats mr bobby the drugy, You took a beautiful young singer, That with every sound of her voice, made the world a happier. place If you wanted your drugs thats your doing But now look at what you did , you must sell drugs becouse you sure cant sing,.... GBY whitney. mr willson
Rich people are not the only ones that do drugs. The devil doesn't care if we are rich are not. He just doesn't want people to know that God has our back, and that we win. Don't blame Bobby, he may be fighting the same battle Whitney tried to win. Drugs can have a stronghold. God is able to break it for him and anyone else who needs it. He needs prayer.
Whitney is gone. I feel most sorry for her kids, who are left with Bobby Brown to "care" for them.
I remember the first interview I saw with her. I saw her as an talented, intelligent, articulate, savy person. As soon as she opened her mouth I was deeply disappointed. Nothing I thought she was, and no class to boot. "Crack is wack?" Come on.
I get tired of people making excuses about how tough these celebrities have it. The pressure, the attention, the MONEY. Their unhappiness with the very success they sought. We should all be so stressed.
Drugs are a choice. A weakness. If I described to you how my life went since childhood, you would be very glad to be you. Yet I NEVER did drugs. I don't even drink. Drugs and booze are copouts. How could such a powerful woman that any man would love to be with end up with Bobby Brown to influence her life? People with low self worth are aware of it: I know because I suffered with it for years. All her money and she couldn't get help (therapy) for it?
Like I said, I feel for her poor kids: I have little sympathy for people who have everything they have always wanted and CHOOSE to self destruct. It IS a choice, people. A choice.
OH WOW!!! Unbelieveable! I was just reading yesterday (I forgot the site) where they took photos of her at some party , she was looking really bad. WOW!
Oh Yeah? I tried it a few times twenty years ago and then I put it down. A lot of people try cocaine, have some fun and don't make it an obsession. 1% of users give the drug a bad name. I like to do some every New Years Eve. I eat healthy, exercise, and pay my bills with a sweet pension.
You CAN NOT be serious with making this type of comment! Whitney Houston is and will always be an icon for many. Just like any other individual in the world, She experienced some tough times. How tough? WE will NEVER know. The only comments that should be made are condolences or some type of respect to the family. Whitney Houston has a daughter who she loved very much. Whitney has a daughter who will grow up WITHOUT her mother. Making ignorant comments such as the one you made on this comment board just goes to show how well "IGNORANCE" is defined.
She was blessed with a beautiful voice and like all of us - flawed. Her music touched many people the world over and in the end that's all that matters...
We don't know yet if it was drugs or not but it's not a stretch that it is. It's terrible that such an amazing woman with a voiceand talent like hers could reduce herself to trash with the drugs and abuse. R.I.P Whitney, you had a lot left in ya, but you're right, she won't be the last.
what a nasty thing to say about someone.......this is for you Really-1739510...... maybe you'll end up like that one day you coldhearted JERK...............
You know what sdiaz, you are right, I shouldn't be disrespectful of the deceased so for that I apoligize. It's sad her poor choices in life possibly lead her to an early death.
What happen to the human society? What did Whitney do bad to the society? Nothing. She was the super star. Young and old at her times would never forget her. Why do we lose our rationality and dare to ridicule the dead who did nothing harm to us? If at all Whitney did wrong, it was on herself. Whitney Super star, May God place your soul at His side.
We say things that we shouldn't when we hear things. Even I did. I was wrong. As I am at times. Whitney was a great singer. Loved her. Praying for her family. We don't know what happened. God says judge not that you be not judged. What you measure out to others can come back on you. So let God be judge.
@ Really?-1739510...what is your point? Let me guess..hmmm...your dream was to be an investigative reporter for MSNBC, but you failed to get the job because you only reported news that most 6 year olds already know. Have you ever considered that some people that use drugs may use them to numb the cold, cruel and demeaning actions and words from people like you? Comments such as yours serve no universal good. WHAT IS YOUR POINT?? A child lost her mother?? Yet, you want to provide her with research that you learned at your 5th grade DARE rally?!! What is wrong with people like you?? Are you that lonely and miserable? When things like this occur it ROCKS me!! The fact that she used drugs to escape anything, hurts me. For people to feel that un-loved?? I don't get that either, but I refuse to degrade them or take on some superior role, as if all of my choices in life are deserving of a Gold medal! Pray that when God judges you that HE has more compassion for you then what you are exhibiting for Whitney. Yuck..you people are really annoying. As for examples, I allow my children to read comments such as yours in an effort to show them how NOT to contribute to a post that is announcing a persons death. Why are you all so programmed?? This is not a darn "Say no to Drugs" campaign!! As for as Whitney, she was not pitiful so deserves to pity. She was a human being, a child of God...and yes, she sinned...who hasn't?? You never smoked a cigarette..point?? People die with lung disease all the time and even they boasted of a healthy lifestyle. I bet you really thought that your comment was gonna have us buckling to our knees in amazement with how swift you are. RIP Whitney...I pray that God forgives you of your sins and welcomes you back home. Selah
Who is this Sela, who tries to teach us about the new discovery-cocaine kills. Selah, you like it or not
We pity Whitney because first she is a human being, second she was a star who passed a good part of her life by making millions enjoying the miracle of music. Indeed this makes you furious Selah, but until your pitiless heart rebound with joy by the death of another star like Whitney who has never harmed the human society.
@ Selah1532,,, you are being alot more harsh to Really?-1739510 , name calling and all those put downs? Damm,, practice what you preach and people will listen and respect you.
@ fasmel...obviuosly, you missed the entire point of my post. "until your pitiless heart rebound with joy by the death of another star"....are you serious? You lack comprehension skills I see. I suggest you exercise what my name suggests... until then, enjoy your life.
@reality1-3909965...the problem with people like you is that you assume that others even desire to be respected by you. "name calling and all those put downs"...did you even read what I was responding to? Moreover, until my demise, I will continue to dish out the realities of what comments like "really's" bring out. Who are you that I even yearn to seek respect from? The wicked always run to share in the shedding of more blood and to assist in being a yoke to others. You can miss me with your pathetic attempt at reverse psychology. The fact that you even are co-signing these degrading and cruel comments speak to your lack of compassion and consideration for your fellow man. You lonely and miserable people need to form a "I don't have anything better to do so I will speak evil of the dead" committee and attempt to convince each other of how great you are, as I am not, nor will I ever, be convinced.
@SeLah relax before you burst a blood vessel. There are very few disparaging remarks here, they are opinions based on Whitney's lifestyle, both as a Great Singer/perfomer, and her downfall through drugs, abuse, and lost hope. Yes there are a few jerks making one or two comments, but since you don't want to be psychologically entwined amongst the opinions of people who are appearing here in MASS Honor of Whitney, I guess you should remember, based on your blog name,
... "Let the Dead bury their own dead, Pick up your cross and follow me, " so that the rest of us can help those who are alive still(IN CHRIST) so that we may stop creating a society that creates such rampant self-destruction through addiction, and suicide. It not only takes our superstars, but there are rooms filled across the nation with those who fight their demons, while locked away in hospitals, where their own families don't come to visit. Mothers, Fathers, brothers, sisters, forgotten, alone, while we abhor actions like the WBC ie. (Westboro Baptist Church), we act no different by leaving the least of these to suffer alone, without hope and without faith in thier own families (mankind) let alone, the Faith in the CREATOR.
Since "SeLah" believes that speaking the truth is speaking evil of someone, I guess she only lies about her true feelings about those in her life. Unicorns and rainbows may be her way of dealing with.the death of a total stranger, but not mine.
Whitney Houston had a drug problem. Drugs were found in her room.
Those are facts.
Don't want people to comment on your death? Then don't develop a drug habit and die in a hotel room with drugs.
People like "SeLah" make me laugh. Self righteous and indignant, yet oh so judgemental!
STOP saying it was due to drugs. The ENTIRE NEWS is reporting information, which HAS NOT been confirmed. The autopsy results are complete pending an toxicology test. PLEASE HOLD OFF ON STATING A CAUSE UNTIL THE CAUSE HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.
if her security people were in the room why didnt they check on her sooner and have they been questioned about this along with the questions of what doctors prescribed her medication!!???
What makes you think think that she went to heaven? She was one really messed up person, and she had many chances to save herself, and obviously didn't. God commands us to take care of our bodies because they are Temples of God. She did everthing but take care of herself. If she couldn't do it for herself, she should have done it for the child she left behind.
@ Carol-4250341 - Do you think she is not heaven bound? Messed up or not, I'm sure she is a child of God and He has a place for her where she will have no more worries...no more pain...no more suffering.
@ Carol 4250341...you are truly disturbed, annoying, and one that seems to have a complex about those who have accomplished what you can/will not. What does it profit you to judge another? Should we give you a typing ovation for your borrowed and ill-informed opinion of who Whitney was? Why do we care what you think of the life she led? Will you cry for her as her daughter will tonight, you demented, wicked woman? How dare you use GOD as your authority to speak wickedly of someone? Moreover, the media has trashed her reputation enough, therefore, your un-solicited attempt to ridicule a soul that lost its way is a travesty that you WILL be reprimanded for when you meet the Creator! Go find something positive to do with your time. And for the love of GOD, if you can't find it in your empty soul to have compassion for the plight of your fellow brethren, then I suggest that you at least go seek pyschiatric help to deal with your issues! I am so sick of reading your heartless and cruel insults regarding someone that you have never met!!
I am soooo Glad that God is not like man!! Father, I pray that you have mercy on Whitney. I pray that you mend her brokeness and restore her back unto you. Love her, Comfort her, and remind her that she was always Loved...if not by this world, then by YOU...a love that surpasses the evil wiles and words of satan and his children. Selah
Do you think she is not heaven bound? Messed up or not, I'm sure she is a child of God and He has a place for her where she will have no more worries...no more pain...no more suffering.
So basically you're saying "do anything you want, because as long as you say you believe you'll be rewarded regardless of what you did in life".
I knew it wouldn't be long before somebody started waving Christinanity (the spelling is intentional) around. You die, you rot. End of story. No punishment, no reward, no god.
Life really is short, and we’re all just passing through. We’re here to learn something. An untimely death always prompts me to hope that the deceased has learned their lessons and done their homework to be prepared for whatever comes next.
Whitney shared a unique gift with us for a while. We should all celebrate her gift.
There is something else that is sad about this news. We can comment on it. But many others we cannot comment. Why? Have you ever thought why they don't want you to comment on stories that matter to you the most?
mikes: I've often wondered that as well. I'll read a story, know exactly what I wish to say, and then find there is no comment section at all at the bottom. I wonder what's up with that??
I agree with Mikes, we can comment on some issues but the issues that we should be discussing are swept under the rug. It makes me think of the poor girl in China recently that was talking about the working conditions in a Chinese factory that makes Iphones and Ipads for Apple. The conditions are terrible and she cannot talk to anybody around her and she cannot leave the compound where they work and have to live. They are not allowed to talk to the other sex, they are segregated, for fear of being fired and beaten. She was in fear of being beaten for what she told the reporter. It was shown once in the news on one station and then it has been forgotten. Apple sure has the power with what gets out in the news, just make sure if it isn't slanted towards Apple then let's just forget about it. But yet we still continue to buy "Made in China"! I try my best to stay away from anything made in China but there are too many that don't care, kind of like Apple!
RIP Whitney
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Always has to be one idiot on here doesn't there bobby?
RIP Whitney
Nice... I pray that no one ever says that about you.
This is a BIG loss for her family. For her friends. And for her fans.
Being addicted to drugs while having a load of fortune and fame is weak..
Bobby=4187866 You are an insensitive ass to say what you did. This Lady brought happiness to so many over the years and was the gold standard of voices for almost 20 years running. That being said, what have you done that is worth mentioning other than show everyone on the blog what and absolute jerk you can be. Get a life and get in to the good habit of not saying anything if you have nothing good to say!!! I hope that when you drop dead someone as stupid as you comes off with some choice remarks about what a boring life you lived and why no one should care.
So sad...she was very talented.
so sad. such a tragedy. Whitney, you're free now of your addictions, pain and hurt. my condolences to Bobbie Christina, her family, friends and fans.
A fantastic talent who was smiled upon by fame and fortune after coming down a long celebrated road of musical heritage and linage and then traveling the lonly and dead end road of drugs and loss. May she finally rest in peace in the arms of the Lord.
So sad, so young
Ms. Houston was a Goddess with a blinding talent; it is tragic that this world simply didn't anchor her. I will think of her as singing with the Angels now. Farewell Whitney
I am so sad to hear this news. My prayers to her family.
What a shame. Such a talented singer, and unforgettable voice gone forever. DON'T DO DRUGS!
dunt dunt dunt another one bites the dust!!!!
Bobby Brown was the death of her.........literally!
Such a beautiful voice. So sad.
Sad to hear, regardless of cause, RIP.
Way back, when MTV played music videos, I remember Whitney wearing a skin tight silver dress ... what a fantastic body. A beautiful woman with a glorious voice. What a tragedy. Sad, sad, sad ...
Dionne Warwick introduced her to drugs. Whitney once was Whitney, but once the drugs started taking over, she lost herself.
Remember kiddies: Say no to drugs!
Body Guard is still one of my favorites, RIP Whitney
So sad, only 48. R.I.P.
Very sorry for her young daughter who survives.
@schoolyard
I have always thought if only she had not met him...she was so beautiful and talented. My condolences to her family in their time of loss.
I will never understand how people with the gifts of talent, fame, and fortune need drugs to boot. I can understand some people using drugs or alcohol to escape the sad reality of their lives once in awhile, but what do people with incredible talent, fame, and vast fortunes have to escape, what a sad waste of a God given talent and all the potential for good that accompanies such a gift.
Very sad, much to young! RIP. Remember when she first showed up, she was full of life and energy, Remember the good things that was the real Whitney.
Forrest Grump 2.0 - I used to have the same sentiments you have. What I have observed over the years is that if you look at the lives of the most successful people, they are in part successful because they are overcompensating for low self-esteem.
The most successful people usually have the most emotional issues to overcome. Drugs and alcohol help to "numb" the pain and anxiety of living their daily lives. Fame and fortune do not fill the void of not feeling loved or worthy.
Let me guess what she died of..I'm going to say old age.
"How will I know? If these drugs will kill me?"
"How will I know? What's enough, to get real high?"
"How will I know. I hope they don't kill me."
"I've done too much. Now I can't speak goodbye."
Forrest Gump - To answer your question, it is the demands and pressure that comes with all that fame that they try to escape. I am in no way condoning or approving of drug use, I am just trying to point out that being rich and famous has it's drawbacks like anything else. Imagine never knowing if someone really likes you and wants to be a friend or is just looking for something from you. Imagine never knowing who you can trust. Sometimes you can't even trust family. Imagine the constant pressure to be perfect all the time and keep up the image that has been created around you.
It is sad that someone with such a wonderful gift fell prey to drugs and died at such a young age. I think that her marriage to Bobby Brown was the beginning of her downfall. I am sure that the stress in their marriage was at least partly responsible for her drug use. Instead of being the one person she could relax around, he became just one more source of stress in her life. Unfortunately she turned to drugs to deal with that stress. If only she had someone she could turn to instead of turning to the drugs.
This is a great loss to music, although the loss really occurred years ago when the drugs destroyed her voice and her life. There was always a hope that she could get back on track and contribute to music in other ways besides singing. Unfortunately, that chance is now gone as well.
RIP
It IS sad, and a waste of talent and life. However, it is most likely a consequence of a life lived not respecting ones body. Even if, and lets give her the benefit of the doubt, she wasn't currently using, all that abuse damaged her body. It's a lesson to teach our kids, especially daughters. The "bad boys" aren't always misunderstood, sometimes they are just bad for you.
Catalyst it seems that the success and fame would validate them and quell the question of them not measuring up in some way, especially when the talent is as enormous as it was in the case of Whitney. I have attained a moderate level of success and a good reputation in my chosen field (fame if you will) now it is nothing remotely in the order of a movie star but my point is I think I was able to achieve that because if anything I had an inordinate amount of self esteem and did not want to tarnish that by failure to achieve less than what I expected of myself. I don't understand how they don't feel loved when millions of people love them and are in awe of what they can do. There must be something to what you say because there sure are a lot of rich and famous people that kill themselves with drugs and alcohol. If I was that rich and famous I might kill myself with thick steaks and cheesecakes.
Forrest Gump, I think sometimes that level of fame and success is very isolating, which only further makes things difficult. In a way, it's hard for them to know who their true friends are; it would be almost impossible to have a romantic relationship.
I think you are very right Summer. Can you imagine all of the hanger on people that you would have to try and make sure are true??? whitney was awesome but did not have it in her to stop cocaine. That is so very sad.
JS in SD everybody has pressure how about the pressure of feeding, clothing and educating 4 kids, on a modest income, we all have to perform to some-body's satisfaction, and deal with people that only want something from us. I don't feel as bad for the people with the pressure of fame as I do young people trying to raise a family in this economy and present day lack of respect and incredibly low wages for workers. Hell they can not afford the luxury of drugs to escape the harsh reality of life if they are so inclined. It is not like she was financially trapped in a bad marriage these people have all the means to help themselves if they so desire. I'm sure fame and fortune has it's own unique challenges but I find it hard to feel sorry for those who let the pinnacle of success ruin them, I have a hard time understanding how being a big winner can turn anybody into a self destructive loser. It happens a lot, I just don't understand it.
RIP Witney,
The greatest female vocalist of all time. You will be missed. Condolencenses to the family and Bobby Brown as I am sure he is hurting from this tragedy as well.
I thought black don't crack.
Forrest Gump, you say, "I can understand some people using drugs or alcohol to escape the sad reality of their lives once in awhile". While using drugs and alcholol once in a while might be manageable by some people, others have a true physical addiction that is based on their biochemical makeup. All the fame and fortune cannot change this. This doesn't excuse the life long destructiveness some people have with drugs, but if you're not predisposed to that physical addiction you will never know what it is like.
"Paramedics who were already at the hotel because of a Grammy party unsuccessfully tried to resuscitate the singer, he said."
Guess they already knew they would need paramedics there..rich and famous people parties.
A hotel like that in Beverly Hills Ca. would of course have security cameras watching every room and who goes in and out..hello... Beverly Hills PD.
As I've said many times, there are rarely simple answers for anything, as much as we would like for there to be. I seriously doubt there was one reason for Ms. Houston's drug use-it was likely much more complicated. Drugs, alcohol, and many other things can be used as numbing behaviors to help a person cope with various stresses, upsets, agonies, and other things in life. Sometimes people who do not turn to drugs or alcohol for numbing may feel superior to those who do, but they may be using something else as their personal numbing behavior-such as food, shopping, TV, gaming, starving, reading, computer, even excessive religion (by "religion" I mean the outward observation of various rules or dogma). Probably all of us use numbing behaviors to some degree, and some are more destructive than others. The problem is when a numbing behavior becomes maladaptive.
Forest, I've learned that no one can really comment on what another person is experiencing as far as pain or pressure is concerned unless they have been in that person's shoes. It's easy to play the "I've suffered more than you" game, but it's not a valid game. There is no way to measure someone else's suffering and compare it to your own. Besides, how much do you REALLY know about Ms. Houston's life?
My condolences to Ms. Houston's family and loved ones.
I just listened to Whitney's version of "I will always love you" from "the bodyguard" and right at the very end of the song she hits the same note in three different octaves, it's simply incredible, it makes me sad.
Forrest...all of her songs are online to listen too..its just that it will cost you to download anyone of them..unless your doing a P2P for a couple of them only.
cmach, There is no way I could imagine living like that. Surrounded by so many people; but, all alone and isolated.
Forrest Grump 2.0 (I think I misspelled your name earlier, sorry for that): it is amazing, isn't it? It's very sad that she died.
Summer.. From what I understand, there re so many people who want a piece of you , that it is crazy... Whitney and others have to had been going nuts dealing with them all.
So sad. I loved her voice.
This should make a powerful TV ad about not using drugs.
Hope that d*bag Bobbie Brown is proud of himself. He destroyed one amazing talent by introducing her to drugs and abusing her the way he did. I hope someone (besides Brown) takes good care of Whitney's daughter.
"Forest, I've learned that no one can really comment on what another person is experiencing as far as pain or pressure is concerned unless they have been in that person's shoes. It's easy to play the "I've suffered more than you" game, but it's not a valid game. There is no way to measure someone else's suffering and compare it to your own. Besides, how much do you REALLY know about Ms. Houston's life?"
I know she did not have a child with terminal cancer, I know she did not have a teenager killed in a car accident, I know she did not have a son killed or maimed in Iraq.
I am not comparing her suffering to mine personally, I have been relatively lucky in this life, however I know people personally who have suffered much more from things they had no control over than her suffrage from a marriage to Bobby Brown, or managing the stress of incredible success. Yes I am sad for her, but yes I will make that comparison, go to the cancer unit, look at the brave little kids getting their treatments look at their broken hearted parents and then wonder how they get through it. I sure as hell would be ashamed to discuss the difficultly of dealing with fame and fortune with them.
I hope you find peace Whitney... I hope some of the vile putrid people on here find a therapist as well.
This is absolutely TRAGIC News...
Whitney Houston was truly a songbird. She was one of a small number of music artists that could sing in 8 octaves. Unlike so many recording artists, Whitney Houston did not need a computer to "sing" for her. She was physically beautiful, divinely musically gifted, spirited and she brought astounding joy to so many of her fans.
Whitney Houston's death is a major Loss to the world of music.
She truly was one of a kind in a field that has become too cluttered...
Rest in peace, angel...you are now in God's hands...
Yes, Whitney was a good girl and hooked up with a bad boy who turned her out on drugs plus Bobby was her first love. It still doesn't pay to be a people pleaser sometimes you have to draw the line and say no to drugs.
My first thought was to remember what an unbelievably incredible voice she had. My second thought was "Rhianna, take note"
No she did not have an 8 octave range, in her prime she could span 5 octaves, which is truly incredible, I don't think there has ever been a singer with an 8 octave range, most musical instruments have much less than an 8 octave range. She could sing with power and clarity seemingly effortlessly across 3 octaves. Her gift, her talent was truly astounding.
That's right because girls never lead sons astray. <sarc>
While she had talent she brought it all on herself. How many times did she have to be beaten to realize that it wouldn't stop without her own actions?
I'm very hurt to hear something like this. She was a good person, singer, mother. I loved all her music, movies, etc. Her former husband should suffer because he brought this on. I hope her daughter would grow up and live a christian life.
Our most talented singers and musicians are being eaten up by illegal or prescription Drugs; actors and actresses, as well.
What has happened? during the last 20 years?--Everything is in excess---for them---too much money, no direction, and crooks who could care less about their welfare, taking care of them--including doctors who are too willing to be their caretakers by giving them illegal anesthesia in their homes/thousands of pills going from dr. to dr. getting the drugs they crave.
This plague has to STOP--it will affect our own children, by their example of lifestyle.
Why isn't there Someone in the Industry who represents the ills of drugs, alcohol, and "whip-its" (Demi Moore), the last being Michael Jackson, and Anna Nicole Smith. All the Rappers who have died..
It is the money that these Beverly Hills doctors want; not caring about the Hippocratic Oath they took entering this Profession.
I will miss Whitney Houston and her music so much---she was gorgeous, a large talent. Her family must be so sad. Dionne Warwick is her Aunt--my condolences to the Houston family, and to the daughter she left behind.
This did not have to happen---out of control, with too much money, out of control lives, i.e. Gary Busey bankrupt. What do they do with their money that flows so freely---
Miss you Whitney---You were a songbird. RIP.
Forest Grump 2.0., why do you even have to ask the question as to why someone or anyone with her level of fame should need to resort to drugs? If you do, then you must not have any capacity for empathy or, adopting a different perspective. There are hundreds of possible reasons. If you can never understand them then, you must be exceptionally narrow minded. But, I doubt if you are. Of what I have not doubt is, that you are being arrogant and judgemental. What you are saying is, look at me, I am tough. I would never resort to drugs if I were in her position.
I'm trying to figure out how all of these actors (think Demi in recent news), Sheen, and Whitney get their drugs. I can't imagine they just drive around a bad neighborhood...I know they have money and can get what they want but the dealers to the stars need to be brought down. There is something more sleazy about that drug dealer then the guy on the corner selling to random folks who come to them. Is there some type of underground delivery system? Who's running the drugs? Clearly other people (bodyguards, housekeepers) are involved and aware - and are just as guilty as the drug dealer. Just think the dealers need to be brought down soon. RIP Whitney - I grew up listening to you and adore your music.
Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust!
@Where, Imagine if you will, A Place trapped in Time, Where people like Tony Montana actually exsist. They make millions of dollars each year, and live in 5 million dollar homes. If we were serious about stopping Drugs (instead of the occasional 55 kilos that makes the police / or the coast guard look good) thats a drop in the bucket of what is actually available coming across the borders, in the ports, on the planes, in the boxes. Unless we somehow decide to AGENT ORANGE every poppy, cocaine, or other fields that produce these products, It's not really a problem, as the dirty money from these operations pays for dynasties, presidency, and dictators elaborate lifestyles.
It will remain PARTY CANDY for the Fabulously Rich and Famous. (John Belushi, Sam Kinison 1, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson *, Jim Morrison, Dana Plato, River Phoenix, Judy Garland, Britany Murphy, Corey Haim, Sid Viscious, Marilyn Monroe * Amy Winehouse 3 and so many more)
1:Kinison was "in Recovery" when he was struck and killed by a Drunk Driver Ironically
*Mystery and Conspiracy surround their deaths, one stated suicide, one stated murder, both with drugs they shouldn't have been able to acquire legally.
3. Alcohol Related
I have not yet seen any reports from the Cause of death yet on WhitneyI would guess, since she was in Hollywood for the Grammy's, It was a mixture of alcohol and drugs. RIP Whitney, wish her surviving family well during this time. She had a great and powerful voice.
Mr. R:
It has been said, via TV discussions tonight, the real truth of her death will never be told. She is considered a VIP Public person.
There will be a cover-up of the truth--Doctors, Coroners, Police tend to give these Music Stars and Actresses "dignity" as to why they died. They have special privileges; a changed named on a bottle of drugs/going from one dr. to the other; assuming fake names, etc, when obtaining their killer mixtures, or accidents. The average citizen cannot do this--.
This is a once again an eye-opener. There are more of these drug deaths, since public communication has become world wide, thus the computer age. Many years ago, it was not as contagious a disease, of one star, dying after another in such short periods of time.
There will be more--every one is a Shock.
Forrest Grump; if you look at the history of drugs, you will see that drugs help open ones mind, not remove it from reality. Anything not done in moderation can kill you, and, when was the last time a narrow mind ever helped someone?
Through out history there always had to be a first, who knows how many had to die before they learned what was okay for you and what wasn't. When it comes to drugs; if you approach doing them with a closed angry mind - you will have a bad experience. It is better to teach others the reality of drugs than to use scare tactics. Some cultures that taught the use of drugs the right way, learned what drugs were okay and how much to use to get a nice buzz. Cultures who teach drugs the wrong way, never learn what moderation is.
Trying to get as high as you can is proof that those using the drug/booze got bad advice from mis-informed people. The more you conceal - the less you learn....this dumbing down cycle needs to end.
Forrest Grump 2.0 wrote:
Talent, fame and fortune are no guarantee to happiness. Why is it hard to understand that one can still get depressed, sad, or lonely even though one has all the money and fame in the world? In fact, having money and fame can tend to isolate a person even more. Whitney was just a person like anyone else, and as such, had the same flaws, pain, and insecurities we all experience.
@Forrest Grump 2.0
TYVM!! At her prime, she did have 5 octaves!! (As does Mariah Carey, but not as powerful...)(for those who don't know this is a once-in-a-generation voice. Celine Dion only has, like 3.5..) Totally Incredible!! She will be missed. Even Dolly is hurt....(Singing "annd Iiiiiiiiieeiiiiii will always love youuuuuueeewweuuuuuu!!)
She did have issues, but that doesn't diminish her talent...... EVER, by anyone!! R.I.P. Whitney, and thanks for exposing me to a wonderful talent.....
@dabugguy
Yeaah, yeah We all know already. Can you focus on more negativity?? Kieth Moon, Jimi H,. Janice J. Kurt C., And plenty more talented musicians have done worse..........
@Mr R...what happened to 2? and amy winehouse's death was not alcohol-related?
w3423, Amy Winehouse's death is listed as alcohol poisoning although "the investigation MAY be reopened, if that's what Amy's family wants" due to the "coroner's qualifications being questioned".
http://www.eonline.com/news/amy_winehouses_cause_of_death/271628
http://perezhilton.com/2012-02-01-amy-winehouse-cause-of-death-inquest-may-be-reopened-if-the-family-decides-thats-what-they-want#.TzeO_LTcAgA
As for Whitney, may she rest in peace. Her version of Dolly Parton's song "I'll always love you" was fantastic.
You reap what you sow. Sorry for the loss, but you could probably had a nice long life if you would had kept your head on your shoulders, stayed away from drugs and alcohol. Destructive life bring destructive results.
You've got to admit it, she gave one of the best (if not the best) renditions of our national anthem ever. Magnificent.
Sorry to hear of passing. I hope her kid/s can avoid the traps she fell into.
@Unbelievable
O.K. Here it goes....
Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust and another ones gone and another ones gone, another crackhead bites the dust! Hey, they're gonna get you to, another crackhead bites the dust...Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust.....
How's that, @Unbelievable?
I do this because she CANNOT compare to the aforementioned ARTISTS that you mentioned. She was a hypocrite that preached to people to stay away from drugs and she was using them herself! Not long ago, she got busted at the Kona airport in Hawaii with a half ounce of pakalolo in her carry-on, but because of her "STAR" status, she was let onto the plane and allowed to leave.
you people are all clueless! I'm glad you are all so perfect. But someday someone in your life will succumb to this god awful disease. and then you will know! until then. stay as perfect and judgemental as u are!
Actually this story is not surprising at all and anyone that acts surprised hasn't paid attention to her downfall since 1986, when she made her last hit album. A God given talent which was given to her and she chose drugs and booze instead. The only one I feel sorry for in this whole situation is her daughter. A daughter who had to grow up and endure the pain of living with an addict and watch them throw their lives away. A daughter who probably spent most of her childhood clean up after her mom. I hope Whitney does RIP, but she made the choice (over her daughter) to walk down the dark ugly road.
What we KNOW is that Whitney Houston had an incredible voice. We KNOW that she used it to provide us with some incredible music.
What we do not know is what was inside of her. Success and fame can be too much for some people. We have seen it repeatedly in the world of entertainment. The names of those gone too soon are legion. I suspect that once you have achieved a certain level of greatness, any slip off can be devestating. I remember reading something about Elvis being concerned because he was just singing the same old songs that he always sung and people were still coming out to see him. But, he did not feel that he was the same guy. He felt that something was wrong.
When entertainers try to live up to their own unrealistic expectations or those of the public, it is often too much. The reality is that they live in an unreal world. How many of us go to work and get a standing ovation at the end of each days performance? If you notice, the ones that stay grounded just dont seem to get as caught up in the hype.
Bottom line-we are all human, no matter how much talent we have. As such, we are subject to the human condition which is one of imperfection.
So, Whitney shoul be lokked at for who she was-an incredible talent and a human being.
The love she speaded in music will over shadow any of her shortfalls. Even your stupid comment clb-462357
It is too bad, But all you sycophants can spin this anyway you want....drug abuse kills and there NO reason, ever, to condone it...
She was a talented lady, who will be missed by her family and the world. She, like so many other talented people, found herself surrounded with the WRONG people. Celebrities can't really live normal lives, because of their fame, end up living surrounded by their inner circle who too often will do anything to maintain their place, even feed them a diet of alcohol/drugs. Haven't we lost enough talented people this way?
She was one of my main idols. I have sung "I will Always Love You" in many contests and was able to walk away with top prizes every time. I, too, have a huge vocal range, which is why I could sing that song in the first place. My heart is so heavy right now. I watched the Oprah interview and knew then that she was not off of drugs. Bobby Brown, may you rot in hell! I know ultimately it was her choice to pick up the pipe, snort the line, etc., but I cannot help but wonder what if she had never met him.......I hope her daughter will not follow in their footsteps. May you finally rest in peace, sweet songbird. You were one of a kind, and a true gift from God, if I ever heard one.
I agree, JS. When a singer/ actor/ athlete gets to the level Whitney reached, the thrill of hard-won success, the demands on their time and the pressure to top their last CD or performance can be an emotional roller coaster. The people around them, managers and hangers-on, even family and friends, become dependent on their career success and sometimes push them beyond their limits. They lose their anonymity and can't live a normal life anymore.
Then out come the drugs, to provide energy, to lull them to sleep, to provide escape from the pressure. Sadly, the celebs have doctors who are more than willing to give them anything and everything they want. Michael Jackson comes to mind here.
I'm very sorry for Whitney Houston and all her family and friends. I doubt her death will make even a dent in the drug culture that celebs are prey to. I also doubt any teenager who's thinking about doing drugs will be scared off by her death.
Mourn the loss of a remarkable talent; an exceptionally gifted artist; and most of all a human being, who could only express the range of that talent because she was a loving and sensitive person. My condolences to Ms. Houston's family!
I'm a saxophone player that actually played with Whitney Houston, she toured right after The Bodyguard and she was so good to the band, theirs families, to my children, she took to my daughter and let her into her dressing room before the show and my daughter cherishes her autograph.
She was a great person, that eventually, unfortunately had personal setbacks that eventually turned into personal tragedy. It was a blessing to have known her, she was truly a wonderful person, an incredible talented artist, with a warm, loving, open heart.
Whitney, we will 'Always Love You' Rest in peace little angel and now you are with God and in peace.
Our family thoughts and prayers got to out to Whitney and her family.
The two greatest male & female singers were Freddie Mercury & Whitney Houston. Both 4 plus octave ranges, both could go high, both deep and powerful. May they RIP.
RIP...
The local news here just reported that she drowned in her bathtub. Anybody else hear that news...
Your point is valid, Forrest Grump. No matter how much admiration for her talent and/or sympathy for her difficulties one might have, Whitney Houston did not cope with her challenges in such a way as to inspire others with her courage. Her weakness killed her in the end. Her life and death should be a cautionary tale to those who might wish to have her fame, talent and fortune.
It should be clear that happiness does not result from becoming rich and famous.
I for one, am more shocked that Lindsay Lohan is still alive, then Whitney being dead. I have seen video of her from the past few days, and even thought to myself that she was going to die very soon. She just had that look. Sad that she left her child without a mother. Personally, I have no love for anyone who chooses being a scumbag over raising their children properly, whether they are addicts, are manipulative, choose a partner over their children, etc. My hope is that her daughter gets far, far away from her father. Take a passage from Frances Bean, Bobbi, and run far, far away, as fast as you can.
Abuse drugs and alcohol and still get into heaven? Cool... party on!
Dr. Cat:
No average person has the pressure to "Publicly Perform by Contract" as actors, actresses, musicians.
Yes, they are "different".
Their Agents are hired to watch over them, while most of the clients are so messed up with drug addiction, alcohol, young performers parents stealing their own young child's money--telling them it is being protected, or Accountants who embezzle their fortune to benefit themselves.
The Industry has very uneducated talented people who trust others taking care of them, especially their finances--the caretaker Professional attitude is 'so what"---Let them go at the drugs, i.e. Michael Jackson and his personal Cardiologist Dr. "Who Cares"? They want the Money, not caring for who they are employed by. The Professionals are "Quacks" in their Profession.
Mistake #1--
"paramedics who were at the hotel because of a Grammy party."
So they station emergency medical personnel at the hotel because there was a Grammy party. They EXPECT some whack job celebrity to do something like this. What a bunch of frickin losers. Let them all off themselves and good ridance if that's the kind of people they are.
Ok, a 48 year old woman died. That is a tragedy. However, there is a lot of other stuff going on in the world that deserve a lot more media attention than a single celebrity in America dying. Athens is burning because of protestors. Iran is trying to start a war with Israel. Canada is becoming best buddies with China.
Come on America! Put down the remote and the Cheetos and wake up!
Forrest,
During Whitney Houston's prime, it was stated more than once, that she was able to sing in 8 octaves.
Another well-known female artist is known to sing in 5 Octaves.
Whitney's voice range was clearly superior to the female artist that can sing in the 5 voice range.
With the astounding talent that Whitney Houston had, it is not unfathomable that her voice glazed 8 Octaves.
Why are there posters, here, so eager to denigrate Whitney Houston?
She was a gifted music artist - who was HUMAN.
All human beings can fall in life.
To the folks who are criticizing Whitney, did you disparage Amy Winehouse and Elvis in the same way?
...I think not.
Whitney Houston is an iconic music legend.
Her artistic gift will stand forever.
Disparaging remarks will not cause this songbird to lose her deserved place in the music halls of achievement and fame.
I am sympathetic to anyone who is in pain, real or imagined. It is a part of the human condition and comparing the types, levels and depths of pain is meaningless. You can only know the pain that a person is in if you are that person. There is a reason that so many young stars end their lives tragically. While it might seem logical to discount their pain as that of overindulged and misdirected people, it is pain nevertheless.
Just as we should not diminish another's greatness to enhance our own, so should we not diminish another's pain to make ours greater. Each pain exists within its own right.
What's exactly stupid about the comment? That her daughter probably didn't have a childhood because that's what happens when you live with an addict. That I grieve for her daughter and not Whitney? Hell, Whitney was an adult and had choices, her daughter was a child and didn't.
Shortfall!!!! Are you kidding me?! She was an addict for YEARS!!! She was arrested on several occassion. At one time Child Services thought about taking their child away because the situation was so bad. She married a loser. She hasn't had a hit single for over TWO DECADES!!! That means two generations have no idea who she is. And looks like she was also broke, happens when you're an addict. Oh I loved her music, own all her 80's albums and yes she achieved quite a bit in the few years she was on top and she had a gorgeous voice and she'll go into the Hall of Fame & should. But short falls, no, she royally screwed up her life and her daughter's life up.
But what's stupid is people sit on this board acting as if they are so surprised, worst yet making excuses for her behavior, "oh I'll miss her music"... when she hasn't had a hit since the late 80's. How can you miss something that isn't there. Here hit singles will play long after she's been gone, just as those that went before her.
Or the excuse "stardom got to her", IMO, the greatest female singer of all time was not Whitney, but was and is Barbara Streisand, who by the way, didn't in any way go down the road as a drug addict. And many other women who's voices are unbelievable, Celine Dion comes to mind also, and she also did not go down that road. There are two many other women for our daughters to look up to who didn't take the wrong fork in the road.
dabugguy, don't comment spam. Once is enough.
Singer Eric Clapton said it best:
If you want to hang out, you've gotta take her out: cocaine
If you want to get down, get down on the ground: cocaine
She don't lie,
She don't lie,
She don't lie,
Cocaine
If you got that lose, you want to kick them blues: cocaine
When your day is done, and you want to ride on cocaine
She don't lie,
She don't lie,
She don't lie,
Cocaine
If your day is gone, and you want to ride on: cocaine
Don't forget this fact: you can't get it back: cocaine
She don't lie,
She don't lie,
She don't lie,
Cocaine
Al,
I agree with you.
Pain is pain.
imwhitewolf, Andres-1484680, you are both suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
25Walker
Actual Forrest is correct and those that state Whitney had an 8 octave or sang continually in a 5 Octave are incorrect and probablly have little knowledge on what an octave actually is. Octaves are arranged C D E F G A B and then C’. There are 8 octaves on the piano and to count octaves you start with the lowest note and count to the same note in the next octave until you get the range. Now in order for Whitney to sing all eight octaves she’d have to be able to sing several notes lower than what any man can which is impossible even for someone with her range. Whitney has a 3 octave range (C3 to C6–she did C6 on How Will I Know) which is lower than both Mariah and Aguilera.
A singer’s true range is measured by the number of notes they can actually SING–not necessarily HIT and Whitney has never ever been an Octave 8, nor has any woman singer or could they even do it.
I stand by my earlier comment. You don't know someone else's pain unless you have actually been in their shoes. Everyone experiences pain differently. Some people have naturally higher pain tolerances than others-we all know that. That does not mean that the other person is not legitimately feeling more pain. It's all in a person's makeup. It's easy to feel superior, but one can never know how one would react in a given situation unless one is actually there. Additionally, many here seem to think they know everything there is to know about Ms. Houston's life-however, I can assure you that all you know about her is her public image and/or what the media wanted you to know, even the bits about her drug use. Not a single one of you knows what went on in her private life when she was all alone and/or when the cameras were turned off-nor do you really know about her life before she became a big star. In other words, you don't know enough about her to comment on what kind of pain she might have been in. Losing a child is not the only thing that can cause emotional trauma.
Shocking & Sad.
Sad, yes. Shocking, no.
We cannot outrun our lives.
The grieving was appropriate many years ago. She's been gone for a long time. She insisted upon her right to her attitude and her drug use. She paid the price for both.
I'm sorry for her family. I deal with an alcoholic every day. This is not a tragedy. If she was living straight and became fatally ill, that would be a tragedy. This was inevitable. Did you see the video from her disastrous cancelled tour in Europe? Sad and disgusting at the same time.
So sad. I remember when she started out -- so talented, so beautiful.
My heart aches for these people who get caught up in drugs. Whitney had the financial ability to put herself into rehab, there are so many out there who have no way out, no way to get help. Drug addict's lives are so sad, it just breaks my heart they are slaves to their drugs. May God watch over all of them.
Oh, you finally said something that wasn't totally offensive. Nice.
Mullet, dude?
Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust
I see the usual resident right-wing Party of Hate & Death weirdos & wackos have emerged from the asylum to post ...
Lemme guess ... you actually believe you're special ...
LOL.
@exotix
Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust....
I see your lover(sic) let you out of the bath house to rest your pruney fingers and dance to a crackhead REMAKE of Dolly Parton's "I'll always love you."
I am NOT a resident right-wing and death weirdo... I just call it as I see it... If you can't handle that, then F U!!!
Like I said, wackos of the right-wing asylum don't know they're insane ... and they believe they're normal and everyone else is wacked ...
This is why you and your wacko buddies believe your rhetoric is neccessary and *cool* and *entitled* ...
... and * special * ...
... and you actually believe the world will miss you when you can't take anymore of yourself and take yourself outside and off yourself ...
Jus' Damn ... LOL.
dabugguy,
I see that you have decided to be the group DONKEY.
Why don't you go somewhere else and waste your time.
What a fool you are.
Damn...another one gone...R.I.P!
The Whitney of the late 1980's was and still is My Dream Girl.
I Love you, Whitney.
Rest In Peace.  ;,(
Dunt Dunt Dunt, another crackhead bites the dust
dabugguy, you need psychiatric help!
Crack is wack.
You are wack you ass!
NEVER try it. Not even once.
dang, Whitney was still in the prime of her life- so sad!
He's only telling the truth. It's almost a given that she died of something drug-related.
Why is he an "ass"? Drugs suck and drug users ruin the lives of every one who loves them. Crack IS whack- he is spot on!
I love the cocaine!
Is anyone going to state the obvious her life went down hill when she met / married Bobby Brown. He got her involved with the GANGSTA lifestyle. I'm sure her family loves him. And yes it's a waste, she was talented and beautiful before him !
thats harsh
Hollywood whore
Passed out on the floor
Can't take anymore
I'm sorry, but the party's over ;0
I agree it's harsh. But wouldn't you agree it 's true ?
No one here knows how she died. Perhaps give her enough respect to wait and see?
So many die due to drugs. Michael Jackson was constantly on drugs. He had a personal Dr. to junk him up. All the entertainment people that has died for NO reason. Way too many to even list here. I guess no brain no gain.
R.I.P. miss Houston
@marzipansii--Right on! For all me know she died because her system couldn't take the transition to a drug-free lifestyle. RIP Whitney. You were the best.
So sad, so tragic to truly lose someone that was so Blessed with Life. She is in God's hands now with no pain, Rest in Peace Whitney. You will be missed yet never forgotten.
@Doug in Reno, It is something we all can wish for, The Odds of her lifestyle are against it tho, and it looks as the coroner will not be quick to release the information (so that the GRAMMY's can promote her LEGEND) and then let the wind blow whicever way after its over.
Chris Benoit of WWE Fame was treated the same way, the first Episode of RAW after his death, where no one knew the truth yet, they dedicated to him, THEN Blackballed him after when they found out it was Murder Suicide. Hollywood probably won't treat Whitney the same, but I suspect she will fade into the back of the Rock n Roll tradgedies on VH1.
Lori Luster, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
RIP Whitney!!! Your once great voice will be so missed!!!
So so sad. Rest in peace Whitney. Thank you for your beautiful voice. Wish we would have had it longer.
There are these things called recordings. She lost her voice and thus her contracts years ago.
Well, first celebraty death in 2012!
Really? What about Etta James, Joe Paterno, Don Cornelius?
Don Cornelious was first
Hardly. Etta James far outshone Houston.
and Ben Gazzara
Hey don't forget Nello Ferrara, the creator of lemonheads and atomic fireball candy. Those creations have lasted a long time...
@jakatze: Let's just say they weren't in the same league and honor each for their accomplishments.
Don't leave out Juan Epstien from Welcome back Kotter
Signed - Epstien's Mom
sorry to say its not the first celebrity death of 2012, read the news its about the 3rd or 4th death of 2012.
So sad!
It is so very sad that whitney has died. I hope that she made it right with God before she left here. I'm hurt as if I'v lost a sister. I hope that people will let the negative comments die with her;And just remember all of the joy that she brought to our lives. To her family my prayers are with you. WHITNEY WILL BE SADLY MISSED.
Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.
It's hard to believe. I mean, she took such good care of herself.
Excuse me? I wish she had taken care of herself. I will miss her deeply.
So sad..What is it about success that makes these wonderful people get into drugs? Someone please research this. Elvis Presley also comes to mind.
I am very sorry. She had such love and sorrow in her songs.
I agree. This is way too sad. I don't understand why wealth plus celebrity equals drugs. It is so disheartening. Her music was an inspiration on so many levels. I will surely miss her.
I'M AGREE WITH U. R.I.P.
it's because they have inner demons that were around long before their careers ... insecurities, pain .. things we don't know and may not want to know. addicts become addicts because it numbs them and they don't have to FEEL anything. they don't have to face the feelings. so sad.
Drug addiction has no bounds. Just because you have money and fame doesn't make you immune or more susceptible. It is within the person to be an addict as much as it is not to be. Personal accountability is what it boils down to.
its cause they have everything they could want and have nothing else to spend their money on prime example she was broke as a joke she blew her entire fortune on drugs
Not black enough? Not white enough? Come on people who project such aweful sentiments! Wasted? Drugs? Why would enough people torment such a beautiful, sensitive and talented artist to ANY extent?
Not fair. Not right. Not good. Please watch your words of judgment and espoecially for the sake of public humiliation in the future. Did doing so help you feel powerful? Did your words and comments no matter where you allowed them to be manifested help to heal your own wounds by creating wounds within another?
Many have their own internal demons to contend with and do not need the weight of external hatred to top it off. Do you feel you belong? I hope and pray you do. Please, please, please do not behave in ways that strip others literallly from that sense. God bless you and keep each and every one of you. Foregiveness is there for the asking for those of you with whom my statements resonate.
Rest in God's loving arms Whitney.
I can imagine that it can be tough having your entire life laid out in front of millions of people. I'm not excusing it by any means, but I can see how people who have problems beforehand would be pushed by living in the public's eye.
I feel terrible for her daughter! Her Mother is dead and Bobbie's all she has left. She's only 18!
Well let me see how did whitney get sick, was it a cold night, We know how she died, dont we bobby, oh Im sorry thats mr bobby the drugy, You took a beautiful young singer, That with every sound of her voice, made the world a happier. place If you wanted your drugs thats your doing But now look at what you did , you must sell drugs becouse you sure cant sing,.... GBY whitney. mr willson
Rich people are not the only ones that do drugs. The devil doesn't care if we are rich are not. He just doesn't want people to know that God has our back, and that we win. Don't blame Bobby, he may be fighting the same battle Whitney tried to win. Drugs can have a stronghold. God is able to break it for him and anyone else who needs it. He needs prayer.
Paige - spew your nonsense elsewhere please.
get Lost. We're talking about Ms. Whitney, NOT how to make money!
How sad. TOO young.
Bobby Brown KILLED her with drugs as sure as he would have put a bullet in her brain.
how sad, this is a great loss!!! RIP
Seems to be a growing trend
Whitney is gone. I feel most sorry for her kids, who are left with Bobby Brown to "care" for them.
I remember the first interview I saw with her. I saw her as an talented, intelligent, articulate, savy person. As soon as she opened her mouth I was deeply disappointed. Nothing I thought she was, and no class to boot. "Crack is wack?" Come on.
I get tired of people making excuses about how tough these celebrities have it. The pressure, the attention, the MONEY. Their unhappiness with the very success they sought. We should all be so stressed.
Drugs are a choice. A weakness. If I described to you how my life went since childhood, you would be very glad to be you. Yet I NEVER did drugs. I don't even drink. Drugs and booze are copouts. How could such a powerful woman that any man would love to be with end up with Bobby Brown to influence her life? People with low self worth are aware of it: I know because I suffered with it for years. All her money and she couldn't get help (therapy) for it?
Like I said, I feel for her poor kids: I have little sympathy for people who have everything they have always wanted and CHOOSE to self destruct. It IS a choice, people. A choice.
OH WOW!!! Unbelieveable! I was just reading yesterday (I forgot the site) where they took photos of her at some party , she was looking really bad. WOW!
me too. she was obviously using ... i read it on dlisted ... horrible.
I saw those same photos!! She looked awful and high as a kite. I'm saddened.. the music community has lost another great one to drugs.
They had a saying about crack cocaine, 1 hits too many & 1000 is not enough.
RIP Whitney.
Oh Yeah? I tried it a few times twenty years ago and then I put it down. A lot of people try cocaine, have some fun and don't make it an obsession. 1% of users give the drug a bad name. I like to do some every New Years Eve. I eat healthy, exercise, and pay my bills with a sweet pension.
"Really?-1739510"
You CAN NOT be serious with making this type of comment! Whitney Houston is and will always be an icon for many. Just like any other individual in the world, She experienced some tough times. How tough? WE will NEVER know. The only comments that should be made are condolences or some type of respect to the family. Whitney Houston has a daughter who she loved very much. Whitney has a daughter who will grow up WITHOUT her mother. Making ignorant comments such as the one you made on this comment board just goes to show how well "IGNORANCE" is defined.
She was blessed with a beautiful voice and like all of us - flawed. Her music touched many people the world over and in the end that's all that matters...
Another drug death. Oh well, she wont be the last.
We don't know yet if it was drugs or not but it's not a stretch that it is. It's terrible that such an amazing woman with a voiceand talent like hers could reduce herself to trash with the drugs and abuse. R.I.P Whitney, you had a lot left in ya, but you're right, she won't be the last.
what a nasty thing to say about someone.......this is for you Really-1739510...... maybe you'll end up like that one day you coldhearted JERK...............
Drug addiction can happen to anyone. It is not about "reducing herself". And it seems quite disrespectful to say that.
1739510 was just telling it like it is....
You know what sdiaz, you are right, I shouldn't be disrespectful of the deceased so for that I apoligize. It's sad her poor choices in life possibly lead her to an early death.
What happen to the human society? What did Whitney do bad to the society? Nothing. She was the super star. Young and old at her times would never forget her. Why do we lose our rationality and dare to ridicule the dead who did nothing harm to us? If at all Whitney did wrong, it was on herself. Whitney Super star, May God place your soul at His side.
It's alrght to ridicule her. I don't respect anyone who had more oportunities than most of us do to clean up and chooses not to. And it is a choice!!
We say things that we shouldn't when we hear things. Even I did. I was wrong. As I am at times. Whitney was a great singer. Loved her. Praying for her family. We don't know what happened. God says judge not that you be not judged. What you measure out to others can come back on you. So let God be judge.
Hey tecara, she did a LOT of cocaine. Guess what, cocaine kills heart cells on contact. Cocaine users eventually have heart attacks.
Wanna bet the cause of death is heart attack? Or overdose?
As for that happening to me? Not gonna happen. I have never smoked a cigarette before, much less cocaine.
That stuff kills ya know!
Anyone with as much talent as Houston that squanders it as she did should be pitied, but also made to be an example of what excess can breed.
@ Really?-1739510...what is your point? Let me guess..hmmm...your dream was to be an investigative reporter for MSNBC, but you failed to get the job because you only reported news that most 6 year olds already know. Have you ever considered that some people that use drugs may use them to numb the cold, cruel and demeaning actions and words from people like you? Comments such as yours serve no universal good. WHAT IS YOUR POINT?? A child lost her mother?? Yet, you want to provide her with research that you learned at your 5th grade DARE rally?!! What is wrong with people like you?? Are you that lonely and miserable? When things like this occur it ROCKS me!! The fact that she used drugs to escape anything, hurts me. For people to feel that un-loved?? I don't get that either, but I refuse to degrade them or take on some superior role, as if all of my choices in life are deserving of a Gold medal! Pray that when God judges you that HE has more compassion for you then what you are exhibiting for Whitney. Yuck..you people are really annoying. As for examples, I allow my children to read comments such as yours in an effort to show them how NOT to contribute to a post that is announcing a persons death. Why are you all so programmed?? This is not a darn "Say no to Drugs" campaign!! As for as Whitney, she was not pitiful so deserves to pity. She was a human being, a child of God...and yes, she sinned...who hasn't?? You never smoked a cigarette..point?? People die with lung disease all the time and even they boasted of a healthy lifestyle. I bet you really thought that your comment was gonna have us buckling to our knees in amazement with how swift you are. RIP Whitney...I pray that God forgives you of your sins and welcomes you back home. Selah
"no" pity
Who is this Sela, who tries to teach us about the new discovery-cocaine kills. Selah, you like it or not
We pity Whitney because first she is a human being, second she was a star who passed a good part of her life by making millions enjoying the miracle of music. Indeed this makes you furious Selah, but until your pitiless heart rebound with joy by the death of another star like Whitney who has never harmed the human society.
@ Selah1532,,, you are being alot more harsh to Really?-1739510 , name calling and all those put downs? Damm,, practice what you preach and people will listen and respect you.
@ fasmel...obviuosly, you missed the entire point of my post. "until your pitiless heart rebound with joy by the death of another star"....are you serious? You lack comprehension skills I see. I suggest you exercise what my name suggests... until then, enjoy your life.
@reality1-3909965...the problem with people like you is that you assume that others even desire to be respected by you. "name calling and all those put downs"...did you even read what I was responding to? Moreover, until my demise, I will continue to dish out the realities of what comments like "really's" bring out. Who are you that I even yearn to seek respect from? The wicked always run to share in the shedding of more blood and to assist in being a yoke to others. You can miss me with your pathetic attempt at reverse psychology. The fact that you even are co-signing these degrading and cruel comments speak to your lack of compassion and consideration for your fellow man. You lonely and miserable people need to form a "I don't have anything better to do so I will speak evil of the dead" committee and attempt to convince each other of how great you are, as I am not, nor will I ever, be convinced.
@SeLah relax before you burst a blood vessel. There are very few disparaging remarks here, they are opinions based on Whitney's lifestyle, both as a Great Singer/perfomer, and her downfall through drugs, abuse, and lost hope. Yes there are a few jerks making one or two comments, but since you don't want to be psychologically entwined amongst the opinions of people who are appearing here in MASS Honor of Whitney, I guess you should remember, based on your blog name,
... "Let the Dead bury their own dead, Pick up your cross and follow me, " so that the rest of us can help those who are alive still(IN CHRIST) so that we may stop creating a society that creates such rampant self-destruction through addiction, and suicide. It not only takes our superstars, but there are rooms filled across the nation with those who fight their demons, while locked away in hospitals, where their own families don't come to visit. Mothers, Fathers, brothers, sisters, forgotten, alone, while we abhor actions like the WBC ie. (Westboro Baptist Church), we act no different by leaving the least of these to suffer alone, without hope and without faith in thier own families (mankind) let alone, the Faith in the CREATOR.
Since "SeLah" believes that speaking the truth is speaking evil of someone, I guess she only lies about her true feelings about those in her life. Unicorns and rainbows may be her way of dealing with.the death of a total stranger, but not mine.
Whitney Houston had a drug problem. Drugs were found in her room.
Those are facts.
Don't want people to comment on your death? Then don't develop a drug habit and die in a hotel room with drugs.
People like "SeLah" make me laugh. Self righteous and indignant, yet oh so judgemental!
Seriously:
STOP saying it was due to drugs. The ENTIRE NEWS is reporting information, which HAS NOT been confirmed. The autopsy results are complete pending an toxicology test. PLEASE HOLD OFF ON STATING A CAUSE UNTIL THE CAUSE HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.
if her security people were in the room why didnt they check on her sooner and have they been questioned about this along with the questions of what doctors prescribed her medication!!???
Great voice and amazing artist! Just not the brightest bulb on the porch.
Is this another Hoax!!
lol seriously! we just cant have enough of those..
shame
Goodbye Whitney, you were great! Time to sing for Heavens All Star Band, you will have a great backup band!
What makes you think think that she went to heaven? She was one really messed up person, and she had many chances to save herself, and obviously didn't. God commands us to take care of our bodies because they are Temples of God. She did everthing but take care of herself. If she couldn't do it for herself, she should have done it for the child she left behind.
Carol, and who are you to suggest she didn't. Don't appoint yourself judge and jury...it is unbecoming, unChristian and unkind!
@ Carol-4250341 - Do you think she is not heaven bound? Messed up or not, I'm sure she is a child of God and He has a place for her where she will have no more worries...no more pain...no more suffering.
@ Carol 4250341...you are truly disturbed, annoying, and one that seems to have a complex about those who have accomplished what you can/will not. What does it profit you to judge another? Should we give you a typing ovation for your borrowed and ill-informed opinion of who Whitney was? Why do we care what you think of the life she led? Will you cry for her as her daughter will tonight, you demented, wicked woman? How dare you use GOD as your authority to speak wickedly of someone? Moreover, the media has trashed her reputation enough, therefore, your un-solicited attempt to ridicule a soul that lost its way is a travesty that you WILL be reprimanded for when you meet the Creator! Go find something positive to do with your time. And for the love of GOD, if you can't find it in your empty soul to have compassion for the plight of your fellow brethren, then I suggest that you at least go seek pyschiatric help to deal with your issues! I am so sick of reading your heartless and cruel insults regarding someone that you have never met!!
I am soooo Glad that God is not like man!! Father, I pray that you have mercy on Whitney. I pray that you mend her brokeness and restore her back unto you. Love her, Comfort her, and remind her that she was always Loved...if not by this world, then by YOU...a love that surpasses the evil wiles and words of satan and his children. Selah
well done selah1532, may god have mercy on them who use ignorance to judge others,
may her soul rest in peace, amen!
So basically you're saying "do anything you want, because as long as you say you believe you'll be rewarded regardless of what you did in life".
I knew it wouldn't be long before somebody started waving Christinanity (the spelling is intentional) around. You die, you rot. End of story. No punishment, no reward, no god.
@SeLah1532
So did you sign up for Newsvine just to cry a river over Whitney Houston or was it to find people who you disagree with and attempt to insult them?
4 posts in total and 3 are weak attempts to insult.
My guess is you believe your work here is done.
This is so sad...another musical icon gone too soon!!!! We will miss you Whitney!!!
Weird, I just made a reference to Whitney Houston today, something that didn't even happen when she was big in the 90s.
yeah, i had just seen an article online about her having a wild night out recently, perhaps for the grammy's...bizarre. here today, gone tomorrow, eh?
Life really is short, and we’re all just passing through. We’re here to learn something. An untimely death always prompts me to hope that the deceased has learned their lessons and done their homework to be prepared for whatever comes next.
Whitney shared a unique gift with us for a while. We should all celebrate her gift.
So very sad...R.I.P. Whitney.
Oh my goodness! I sure hope this is a mistake. :(
RIP Whitney. You will be missed so much.
There is something else that is sad about this news. We can comment on it. But many others we cannot comment. Why? Have you ever thought why they don't want you to comment on stories that matter to you the most?
mikes: I've often wondered that as well. I'll read a story, know exactly what I wish to say, and then find there is no comment section at all at the bottom. I wonder what's up with that??
Though I'll agree with the above sentiments, what I wish to say is:
Goodbye Whitney. Always loved, adored my millions. True talent lasts forever. Thank You.
I agree with Mikes, we can comment on some issues but the issues that we should be discussing are swept under the rug. It makes me think of the poor girl in China recently that was talking about the working conditions in a Chinese factory that makes Iphones and Ipads for Apple. The conditions are terrible and she cannot talk to anybody around her and she cannot leave the compound where they work and have to live. They are not allowed to talk to the other sex, they are segregated, for fear of being fired and beaten. She was in fear of being beaten for what she told the reporter. It was shown once in the news on one station and then it has been forgotten. Apple sure has the power with what gets out in the news, just make sure if it isn't slanted towards Apple then let's just forget about it. But yet we still continue to buy "Made in China"! I try my best to stay away from anything made in China but there are too many that don't care, kind of like Apple!
How did comments about Whitney Houston end up as a totally unrelated comment?
How very, very sad. A lost soul with incredible talent.
Her poor daughter and mother and aunt.
May you finally be at peace dear Whitney.