So true... and this will be the year DWTS and I part company.

What in the world is Bristol Palin doing there... her fame is she spread her legs at too young an age, wasn't bright enough to use safe sex and became a teen mom. Oh how proud Sarah must be. DWTS should consider changing their name to Dancing with the Dregs of Humanity.

I guess DWTS has decided to elevate Bristol and her morals to the pinnacle of role models for all teen gals in America. Great idea DWTS hope your daughters are every bit as bright as Bristol!

I think I'll skip this season. This is the most pathetic line up ever. Christ... are they THAT desperate ?

I have agreed with everyone I know, and everyone they know that we WILL NEVER watch DWTS, this season or any other season.

What a sad pathetic line-up of losers. We're sick of allowing these greedy networks to stuff these losers in our faces - all day - every day.

Obviously these network executives do not understand the titles that they give these "reality" based shows. Dancing with the "STARS" now apparently means dancing with every loser and wannabe that will come on the show for the money - talent or not.

Let me be the first to offer my encouragement to the cast of losers DWTS stooped to line-up..... break a leg... or both legs... hips... backs... groins... arms... neck... tail bones, asses....well, you get the picture.

A cast of morons put together to attract other morons to watch it. Seriously, what type of low intelligence level does it take to look at this and think: "Hey, that sounds great!"

The only place I want to see Kurt Warner "dance" is on the grid iron in Arizona. After watching Matt Lineart flounder in the preseason the Card's need Kurt back ASAP!

No wonder why I watch politics... this is a cast of has-beens and 'never were's' (can you say The Situation". Yuch.

All the professional dancers get paid $5,200 a week. The celebrities get paid about $250,000 if they stay all nine weeks. The professional dancers need to be paid more because the dancers are the people that make the show worth watching.

The "guest celebrities" get paid $ 125,000 for the first 2 episodes and then $20,000 for each week thereafter . They also get an addition $50,000 bonus if they make it to week nine of the competition - although some of the bigger stars may be able to negotiate a higher salary.

The celebrity winner gets the maximun pay, plus $50,000, the glass trophy and bragging rights.

Needless to say, for a guest celebrities looking for a nice piece of quick cash, (because they're broke or greedy) - merely getting booked for the show, and lasting for the first 2 episodes is still a pretty good pay day.

Like the "soon to be felon" Tom Delay found out, and Bristol Palin will soon find out that - you can't do those dances like the Rumba, Paso Doble, Samba, Jive, et al with cloven hooves.

Also, you have to be a certain weight to be "liftable" for those dances. Some of those dances require that you be "flipable" - which you have to be in a low weight size so as not to injure or kill your partner when you decend from the air after being flipped and lifted.

DWTS must be scraping the bottom of the barrel with this cast. Miss Palin has No celebrity quality at all. Unless being an unwed mother with no education is the criteria to be a celebrity.

The Situation is from New York. No self-respecting Jerseyite would claim that moron.

I have been a faithful DWTS watcher until last season. I loved watching the stars and the dancers and seeing how they grow and change! I truly loved and enjoyed watching it!

Last season, they put that twit Kate Gosselin on it. Ummm sorry, but isn't the title Dancing with the Stars???? Popping out 6 kids DOES not make you a star. DWTS did not get one minute of viewership from me! Now this season, one I was looking forward to, they decide to use Bristol Palin! Now, if John McCain had not chosen Sarah Palin as a running mate, this young girl would still be some unknown, unwed teenage mother in Alaska. So what exactly has she done to be a "star"???

So, once again, DWTS has lost me as a viewer! Sad, sad, sad! Hopefully, this will be the last pitiful season!

LS-

I agree. We haven't watched the show for the last two seasons because of the "stars."

I was hoping "Skating With Celebrities" would come back.

MK... it seems DWS just gave up. The Situation? OMG, what a joke. Sad thing is these Jersey moron's think they are cool. Turns my stomach.

Ummm. Are you kidding me? Laughing at these losers is EXACTLY WHY I watch the show!

You read PEOPLE magazine ? I'd rather admit to watching DWTS. Anyway, to each his/her own.

I was turned off by Gosselin last season. So sad that DWTS is just getting worse.

LMAO! That is a good one. Bristol and The Situation . . . ahhh, that's good stuff, right there. @Sue0415, I'm right there with you -- last season was the first season I didn't watch, because of that Gosselin woman. This season is ten times worse.

Interestingly enough, DWTS has a get together party with all their dancers. All were invited, but one: Gosselin. Apparently, she was a complete b**** and didn't interact with anyone on or off camera. Complete snob and the other contestants complained about her.

Lynlargo-

Those loser's are too embarrassing to watch.

What has Bristol Palin ever done to negatively affect your life?

Rick must be a Palin follower to have posted TWICE in favor of her. She is NOT a star, or a role model, and neither is her mother.

Rick- as the other poster noted, she is not a star, a role model...I don't think she is employed, or even finished school? Who is watching her baby while she does all of this dancing??? Apparently, she gets her parenting priorities from her mom. "Publicity first, parenting second, honey!!!"

What is so wrong about it is her mom is crazy and spews hate and fear against people in our country that our government helps. People, who, on paper, are pretty much like her daughter, without the fame/money-grubbing resources from her limelight sucking mom.

She's not, yet, but her mom is.

First, I would never vote for Sarah Palin for president. Like Obama, her resume is not strong enough to lead a country.

Secondly, the pure vile hatred for anything Palin is absolutely amazing to me. She's not the president and nothing she says or does has any effect at all on your life. I, personally, do not like to listen to Keith Olbermann. Guess what. I don't. I guess, in your mind, all of the ladies who got out of the kitchen and decided to enter the male world of politics also have the "Publicity first, parenting second, honey" thought, or is that just reserved for Sarah Palin?

So Hasselhof (sp?) is a role model? Did you say anything negative about him?

For those that are asking why Bristol is doing this and not staying home and watching her kid - what is this the 50's? and why not the EXACT same questions for other contestants that have children. How come this statement never comes up for male contestants ?

and why not the EXACT same questions for other contestants that have children. How come this statement never comes up for male contestants ?

Becuase they don't have Palin as their last name. I wonder if they would feel the same way if Chelsea Clinton were on the show.

Chelsea Clinton isn't a teenage mom. Kiiiiind of a big difference.

I think, in the past, this show had people on it who were"stars" - that is, they were in tv/movies/music....what, besides getting knocked up, has Bristol Palin done to qualify her as a star? Most of the stars, referred to earlier, worked at their craft for years to gain that status. They can afford nannies etc., who are in their employ because of money they earned by working. And no, this isn't the 50's, AND there are so many women in politics (as well as most professions), who serve this country with integrity, logic , and are always looking to further the best interest of our nation, not the next photo -op. Hasselhoff is wahed up- no need to say anything about him. Bristol just seems to be riding the opportunist train, like her mom. Rather than having real plan for herself and her kid. One wekk it's the cover of People, "yeah! I'm Marrying my baby Daddy!" Next week it's the cover of other rags, "OOOPS! My Bad!" Did that make her a star? She needs to get her education and find a career.

Rick is just a horny fellow and hopes to hook up with an easy gal... Bristol by name.

So, your saying that it would be ok if Chelsea was on the show?

fmrcatholic mom, what do they get if they win?

The definition of star is to narrow these are people we are talking about like it or not. People will watch because they hate someone just as often as if they love someone the trick will be getting them to vote for them.

Chelsea Clinton has a Master's from Oxford University, has a career, and just got married. Really really BIG difference. But see? Bristol could do that too! If she stopped grabbing for headlines!!

So your saying it would be ok for Chelsea to be on the show?

Sure, it would be OK for Chelsea to be on the show. She'd probably
do pretty well, too, since she & her husband took dancing lessons from
one of the DWTS stars. Guests at their wedding were expecting
a sedate "first dance" & instead were surprised with a DWTS-type routine.

ScrapHappy: I did not see Rick post the same comment twice, but I did see fmrcatholicmom post the same thing twice. Just saying...........

And fmrcatholicmom sure knows her celebs thanks in part to People Magazine which she reads.

So wait, Chelsea is no more a star then Bristol, but its ok for Chelsea to be on but not Bristol.

Chelsea would never be on DWTS. She's got too much class , unlike either of the Palin women.

fmrcatholicmom sure is spewing the hate that she accuses the Palins of doing... No wonder she's a former catholic.

"and why not the EXACT same questions for other contestants that have children. How come this statement never comes up for male contestants ?"

I agree. Where was everyone when Gosselin was on the show? 8 kids, 6 of them like 5 years old maybe. . .She went on the show AFTER the divorce/seperation.

What amazes me is that most of the posters here really take the "Stars" serious in the name. The show has always been lame because it can't draw real stars, only people in the public face that interests others so the producers think they can get a good rating. I do not see where any of the cast this year is any different than previous years. I have tried to watch it in the past and it is a joke.

Bristol Palin is not a "star" or even close. Previous performers had some claim to even, albeit slight, other than having a politician/quitter mom and teen age pregnancy. Even Gosselin was a "star", she at least had a TV show prior to DWtS. I would propose that the teen moms on MTV's 16 and Pregnant are more qualified to be "stars" than Bristol Palin. But let's hope Sarah's lil girl does about as well as Kate G, the laugh factor alone will be worth it. Lord knows there's no embarrassing the poor girl.

I propose The Situation and Levi have spinoff guest spots on The Contender and go at it: Bristol's past baby daddy versus her future baby daddy!

Marci, so your saying that all the other women that were on it have no class? Or is it you have no class. Besides, I doubt that Chelsea wouldn't go on it either. But then again, I doubt she would even be asked.

You guys are all missing the point. The ridiculousness of the cast is one of the main draws of the show! No self-respecting actor/entertainer would make an appearance on this show. It's for aging icons and wannabes ...that's what makes it hilarious and entertaining.

Thats right lynlagro. No self respecting star would appear on this show. The has beens have the time and probably miss the limelight and maybe even need the money. Do you think Meryl Streep, Danny Glover, or George Clooney would ever even consider being on DWTS? They ARE stars. The name of the show should be Dancing with The Celebrities, thats more realistic.

I don't think the key word is "star" anymore. It's "celebrity" as in Paris Hilton is not a star, she is a celeb. I don't have that figured out - beyond me.

What has her mom done to negatively impact my life? She has embarrassed me to be a modern woman. The "oh" that she and Bristol gave the teacher when she expressed her disdain for her half governorship was enough to make me see that the woman and her dufus daughter are mentally incompetent.

Wow, Kat. A woman who is governor of a large state and has a HUGE political following in this country is an embarrassment to you as a "modern" woman? Maybe a little jealousy is keeping you up at night?

Come on Rick we all know you are hoping to meet this low class babe and get lucky in the process.

Come on Mike, you know you would like to also. Heck, I would.

lol well maybe but I'd hope that I could do it without losing my dignity al la Rick.

Rick said: Wow, Kat. A woman who is governor of a large state and has a HUGE political following in this country is an embarrassment to you as a "modern" woman?

Rick, FYI, Palin is NOT the governor of a large state. She quit with half of her term left. Remember?
Most "modern" women I know in the workforce have the integrity to fulfill
their responsibilities. Palin, on the other hand, used the state as a springboard
to far more $$$ than she ever would have gotten as governor. I admire her
for her business sense, even as I am appalled by her lack of loyalty.

As for Bristol: I have no problem with her being on the show; I hope she does well and has fun. HOWEVER, she'd better stop criticizing Levi for being too interested in the celebrity life. And when the tabloids start doing all the trashy stories they do for all the "DWTS" folks, we'd better not see any complaints from Sarah about the "lamestream media" exploiting her daughter.

Rick: Sarah Palin "was" the gov of Alaska. She quit, remember ?

Governor of a "large" state? By area, yes, but by population (698,473) it's the 47th biggest state in the union, or the 4th SMALLEST State. Is the size of the land supposed to make her being elected that much more impressive? Just trying to figure out why you used the word "large" to describe a state with less people in it than Charlotte, North Carolina.

Being elected Mayor of Charlotte would be a more impressive accomplishment. Ever heard the name of any mayor of Charlotte before? For that matter, can you name any other Governor of Alaska without looking it up? Thats because no one else cares who is Governor of Alaska any more than they care who is mayor of Charlotte.

She was an un-vetted, last-ditch effort by the desperate staff of a desperate old man to get the female voters they thought might leave the Democrats once Hillary was out of the running for even Vice-President. Had the McCain campaign done even a modicum of research on Sarah, she would still be a virtual unknown and the world would never have been subjected to her current foolishness.

Welcome to Politics 101 Moxie, Clinton used New York the same way. It just didn't get her exactly what she wanted. First rule of politics is get elected whereever you can if you want to move up. Do you really think Rockefeller is FROM West Virginia??Although I am not a Palin supporter she is as qualified as the next to run for office. And if we compare her daughter to other politicians kids in present and past we really can't complain there too much either. She made a teenage mistake and she is still reasonably young so I really don't understand the hatred people show to her or her mother.

Rick, you clearly don't know Palin's stance on rape. You can't say she hasn't hurt people with what she has done. Educate yourself before speaking.

Rick - Before she had her developmentally disabled son, she cut vastes amounts of money which related to helping people with disabilities in Alaska. How horrific! A witch with a Captial B. People with disabilities can become tax payers with the right assistance... She sumbag mother , by the way who is taking care of her disabled child while she is doing the Palin look at me Road show. Chilren with disabilities need their mothers......Chasing the ca-ching Sarah..... She has hurt people who have been raped and those who are disabled.....

I brought up her mother because people hate Bristol because they hate her mom. I agree that the show is going down. It should be Dancing With the Headline Makers.

Rick: I like that "headline makers". For want of a better definition I called them "celebs" instead of "stars" in an earlier post. You hit the nail on the head ! And I agree with you that there is no reason to put her down because of her mother. And lots of women have babies "out-of-wedlock". No shame there as far as I am concerned.

Yeah isn't Jennifer Anniston looking to have a baby out of wedlock?

Jason (and others who support having children outside of a committed relationaship),

There is a huge difference between Jennifer Aniston and Bristol Palin being single mothers, most notably in their ages and ability to care for a child. Aniston may be making a conscious choice to have a raise a child on her own; Palin was a high school senior who found out that not using birth control has consequences.

I don't hate the daughter but Sarah is another matter. And here's the thing - Sarah will use Bristol's appearance on the show for her own attention grabbing and hating spewing, which is why so many of us hate that Bristol is to be on the show.

Happily, thanks for adding words to my mouth. But next time you do, get them correct.

And by that statement I can assume that you are against having children outside of a commited relationship, right.

And wasn't Bristol and what ever his name is, can't think of it right now, weren't they in a commited relationship at the time of conception. Didn't they get engaged before the birth also?

Jason,

Not sure what you think I attributed to you that you didn't say, but you seemed to be using Aniston as justification for having children outside of committed relationships.

You haven't a clue about my feelings on people having children. I will clarify by saying that maturity with the ability and resources to care for and raise a child are incredibly important. I know many women who chose to have children and raise them outside of a committed relationship and they are doing a wonderful job. Unfortunately, for all too many women, it's not a matter of their choice.

Get real, though. How "commited" can a relationship be between a high school stud muffin and a 17-year old kid who needs to get away from her whack job mother? (Yep, my opinion in all parts of that statement.) Bristol's recent interviews indicate that she wants to get away from Alaska (read: MOMMA Grizzley).

Happily, I think you may be a little confused by what I was saying, and I'm not saying this as an insult to you.

I'm not using Anniston as justification for having a baby outside of a commited relationship. In fact I am saying the opposite. However you are.

By your own words can someone come to the conclussion that you would think it would be ok for someone to have a child out of a committed relationship, not mine. Remember what you said about Anniston having a baby.

Get real though, seriously, you want to go with that. So you are telling me that highschool sweethearts don't fall in love, and don't get married. Did you have a highschool sweetheart? Did you think you would marry him if you did. Did you love him? And she needs to get away from her mother? Why? Because she is instilling in her ideals that you oppose. Do you have kids?

I do think it's possible for a mature adult with emotional, social, economic, and intellectual resources to have a child outside of a committed relationship. Keep in mind that no 17-year old can meet that criteria because a 17-year old is still a child--legally, as well as in other ways.

Many people are infatuated and believe they are in love in high school. Fortunately, most of us don't make life choices based on those immature feelings and emotions, which is not to say it hasn't worked for some, but data will prove that isn't the case in this day and age.

Bristol, by her own admission in an interview, said she wants to get away from Alaska. Personally, I think that her whack-job mother may be the real reason she wants (and needs) to get away. (And my opinion of her self-serving mother has little to do with any real ideals the Momma Grizzley possesses, but rather her lack of them.)

You do seem to be condoning high school pregnancies because adolescents think they are in love. That's just crazy.

Nope I don't condone any preganancy outside of marriage. However, people make mistakes all the time. At least she is moral enough to have the baby, unlike others who, when they make a mistake, they simply kill it.

And to think, people can't figure out why society is in the state that it is in.

There are lots of COMPLEX reasons why society is in its current state. Don't zero in on one issue.

Don't zero in. Isn't that the topic at hand? So what, you want to start talking about other stuff like crime now too?

Jason, you don't get it. My comment was that you shouldn't zero in on abortion as the root of all problems in society today. I said this based on your reference to abortion, which was followed by

And to think, people can't figure out why society is in the state that it is in.

You cannot seriously believe that all problems are caused by abortion. Rather, social ills of all kinds have complex causes. You are mistaking a "symptom" for the cause.

I am not blaming all the problems on society on abortion.

What I am getting at, is that a big part of the problem with society is that people make mistakes all the time, but they are not taking responsiblty for their actions. Take abortion as an example. Is that our only problem. Of course not. If it were we would be in a much better place.

But people need to start being more responsible, and held accountable for their actions.

I absolutely agree that people need to take responsibility for their actions, whether one makes a "mistake," a bad decision, or a decision that has unforeseen consequences.

On the other hand, as a woman, I resent the government and/or other people attempting to assume control over my body and what happens in/with it. I know you disagree on this point because you have already articulated anti-abortion views, and I am pro-choice (which is not pro-abortion, as many try to define it). I don't expect you to understand that or have the same point of view as a man.

We've found a point of agreement, and you can see where we clearly diverge, so I will be disengaging from further discussion with you in this forum because there doesn't seem to be much of a point to further exchange.

Guess she can do straddle splits thanks to Levi.... Maybe she said to him" Drill baby Drill" Just like her Momma

As Rick calls them "headliners", they should change the name to DWTH. Better name for the show. One name fits all.

Maybe they will keep Hasseloff around longer so he can do another drunken video for his daughter to film. Now there is a real role model for you!

DWTS casting directors are not so dumb. They know that having Bristol on will probably increase their ratings, or at least keep them the same. Look at how many people are respondng to Bristols appearance more than any other "star" they have lined up for this season. Even those that dislike the Palins will probably watch at some point just out of curiosity. I will probably watch a little of it just for a laugh. I think the best choice this season was Margaret Cho. She will add some humor to the show.

This show makes stars as well as revives some. I hate Sarah Palin, still I hope Bristol does well, and why not, she has done nothing to me. The very fact that it is her name and the "situation" that keep coming up on this board is the reason for their inclusion in this season.

I know, I bet that half the people on here that say they won't watch, will listen to what other have to say, and they will talk about it also just becasue she is on it.

Heck they already are.

I rarely watch TV after the local/national news but I just may watch this one. Works for me folks.

I know. And that is what they are counting on. And I bet it works. It already is.

Bristol could win the show and Sarah Palin would still be an annoying idiot, and Bristol would still be her limelight seeking teenage daughter who got knocked up.

If Bristol wins I'll invite her over to do a lap dance for me.

Jason

"if she wins....." - lmao

Randy, don't hold your breath.

b dune, so what, your saying there is no possible way she could win. What, she couldn't keep up with you when you two did the salsa?

She cant dance with all that baby Fat.

No, I beleive she left him because he knocked some other girl up.

He didn't knock some other girl up. Bristol is seeking fame and fortune. Too bad she is in the news all the time. Some poor girl will think, hey I should have a baby and then quit school and go to hollywood and be a reality star. What a joke she has become. As for her mother, she should spend more time with her children also. It's one thing to have a career, but not at the expense of your children. Sounds like Willow has some issues also. Where's mom to help guide her and parent her? This cast will suffer because of Bristol's presence. She will garner headlines and probably not for her dancing. Poor Kurt Warner getting stuck with this bunch.

Yes he did.

Since she is in the news all the time, I guess that would make her some kind of star.

And what is wrong with her seeking fortune. I believe we all are. Kind of hypocritical if people are going to criticize her for going on this show when she should be taking care of her baby. I would think that if she is looking for fortune, she is doing it to take care of her baby. And how old is she? 19. So I guess she can't go to college either. Maybe a little fortune will help her pay her own tuition, don't you think.

Lanesia Garcia, who describes herself as “nine months pregnant,” says both she and her baby’s actual father were dismayed and baffled by the pervasive rumor that has allegedly caused static in the newly rekindled relationship between Bristol and Levi:

“Point blank, it’s not true at all. We haven’t hung out at all since 8th or 9th grade when we broke up. I don’t know where people are getting this. It’s not true at all. Levi is not the father of my baby.”

Hmmm, could Sarah be behind this "other pregnant woman" rumor?

She couldn't have been happy that Bristol was back with Levi;
why not use a little soap-opera-type strategy to break them up?

Wow, it appears that you are truly infatuated with the Palins.

Jason

and you seem obsessed with the Palins - in that sick sort of way!

b dune, whats that sick sort of way?

Hasselhoff and integrity? You have to be joking, right? Check out the You Tube of Mr. Integrity in a drunken stupor of the floor.

Rick: aw c'mon. Never been stupid ?

I agree. Hell you and me could be on DWTS next season if Bristol Palin and that Jersey Shore clown can make it.

Sparky, The Situation isn't even a New Jerseyan. He's from New York! In fact, all but 3 of the cast members are from NY (2 are from NJ, 1 is from RI).

It shouldn't be called the Jersey Shore. These morons do not represent NJ (Hell, most of them are not from here!) or Italian Americans. I have had friends go down to the Jersey Shore and most of these 'guido' stereotypes are from NY, not NJ.