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New tape mentions alleged Mel Gibson assault

Oksana Grigorieva 'deserved' to be hit, voice says in phone argument

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Gisbon IS the creepy, off the hinges guy he played in all those movies. We only THOUGHT he was acting.

    Reply#1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:40 PM EDT

    Evidently he was only acting in "What Women Want"

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    #1.1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:03 PM EDT

    So Much for the "Passion of Christ!"

    What a Hypocrite!

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    #1.2 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:17 PM EDT

    An Australian who beats his women; who would have thunk it. It is not a choice; he was born that way.

      #1.3 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:26 PM EDT

      Were you born a bigot, Randy?

        #1.4 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:04 PM EDT

        So, Mel Gibson deserves to be locked up and his kid taken away from him. Seriously.

        Now, here's the part I also don't like about this story. How exactly did this recording occur? Because it sounds like either an invasion of privacy, or if law enforcement was listening in, it was leaked. In this case, the leak is really done good, but is this what our nation is becoming? Where it is justified to listen in on someone's home if they are famous enough? Now, if this was recorded in a public place, okay. I don't know the details. But let's not overstep the huge problem this is if it occured in a private residence and was leaked, even if in this case it may save someone.

        I do think this could save Oskana, by the way. This is a serious fingerprint should anything happen to her from now on.

          #1.5 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:40 PM EDT

          Mel, Mel, Mel, ......Here's how this comes off.... Mel has lost the love and trust of the people that are closest too him. His partner, family or friends .....the people that he holds more dear than life itself, and he knows that without them, he has lost the things that are most important in life. Mel has been portrayed as the man that has it all...he's smart , handsome, wealthy.....got it made,but in reality, he is so stressed and depressed that he wants desperately too escape and is using alcohol and drugs, or a combination, to the mask the pain. When you do that , you don't think rationally...you don't speak rationally, and you hurt the one's you love. There is another way out, that is permanent, and we all know people who have taken that option. I don't consider myself handsome, smart, and definitely not wealthy, but I know this scenario, all too well.........I have lived it and continue to try to deal day after day,but the nights are the longest.

            #1.6 - Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:43 AM EDT
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            As far as how he talked to her about how she dressed and went out in public................WTF????? I hear Black men talking to their women like that all the time! S.O.B.!!!! I guess a white man can't get any slack in this reverse racist country!!!!

              Reply#2 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:59 PM EDT

              I'm Black and grew up in a predominately Black community and NEVER witnessed Black men talking like this. Reverse-Racism does not exist...just good old fashioned Racism-you know, the kind you are so subtlely displaying by using this comment section as a platform for you own prejudices....meanwhile, Mel Gibson is out of control but this will not be the end of him-there are enough racist, homophobic, anti-semitic fans that will continue to support him-let him put the Rehab bandaid + a TV interview with some sellout black personality i.e. Al Shapton and all is forgiven

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              #2.1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:01 PM EDT

              Real men don't talk to women that way ...period no matter what their race is. If your around people who talk to women like be a man and step up and set an example.

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              #2.2 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT

              Pardon -- But white trash talk to their women like this all the time..

              And what kind of male human would hit a woman!

              Gibson is a wonderful example of the morals brought to us by Catholicism.

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              #2.3 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:48 PM EDT

              Hmmmm 1996463, do you REALLY think there aren't racist blacks? You MUST be kidding! And as to your claim that you grew up in a black neighborhood and never heard men speak like this to women??? You MUST be kidding! Ever listen to the tapes of OJ raging at Nicole? Ever see the pictures of her face bashed in with OJ's fists? Ever see the pictures of her body after he decapitated her? I mean holy hell! Gibson is out of control rage-o-holic with something bad to say about everyone for sure, but you are either in deep denial about the racism, sexism, homophobia, wife and child abuse of the black community or live on another planet.

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              #2.4 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:01 PM EDT

              Oh, I almost forgot....then a jury of blacks let him off scott free for the murder of a caucasian women and a male jew. Earth to Hmmmmmm 1996463

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              #2.5 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:35 PM EDT

              Well said Newton! geez.

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              #2.6 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:44 PM EDT

              Oh, gawd! Why is it OJ always comes up as an example of black male violence against white women? Why not mention all the black men who were lynched and mutilated in this country just because they were black. Or the black women who were raped and made to bear the children of their employers? All the white juries who always convicted non whites, regardless of the evidence? The Klan who killed Medgar Evers and went free because it was only a black person. Right. OJ.

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              #2.7 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:37 PM EDT

              We certainly don't need OJ to demonstrate the rampant misogyny, homophobia, racism, wife abuse, child abuse and absenteeism among black fathers. But he's such a special case since he committed mahem and multple murder and got off by a black racist jury listening to the same old racial based excuses blacks give for hideous conduct. Even murder. Hey BlueBurner, slavery ended in 1864. It's been over twice as long as it even existed in the United States. Eighty percent of the white citizens of this country today had relatives who came here AFTER 1864. A large percentage of the black population came her AFTER 1864, including the current POTUS who was elected with a majority of the white vote. You are beating the same tired excuses for blacks until the end of time. Meanwhile, black racism is rampant and unchecked. Including the black racist DOJ and Barack Hussein. Racists to the core. If you don't like racists, start with your own. As to the whole 'slavery' bull@!$%#...it's sooooo over. Time to learn a new song.

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              #2.8 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:02 AM EDT

              Actually Newton-918654, the last known Black lynching in America was in the late 1960's. Your facts are slightly incorrect. This is our parents in their prime. So your statement on slavery ended in 1864 is valid, just not the murdering based on racism didn't. Mel was just wrong plain and simple and it still shows how closet racism has taken the place of blatent racism.

                #2.9 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:16 AM EDT

                Interesting how piece on a privileged yet abusive Mel Gibson ends up getting sidetracked on whether or not black men abuse women. Last time I checked Gibson was white, as though that matters. ANY guy, purple, green, or orange, who treats a woman like that is scum. Period.

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                #2.10 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT

                Well, I'm not sure how most of the people making racist comments on this thread justify their hate for Mel Gibson, given their own posts.

                  #2.11 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:43 PM EDT
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                  Walt -Just because someone else does it that makes it OK? No one deserves to be talked to that way, black or white, male or female. I used to be a big fan of Mel Gibson but not anymore. The act is not funny now that we know it's not an act!

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                  Reply#3 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:19 PM EDT

                  I'm with you. I am no longer a Mel Gibson fan and will never watch another movie that he plays in...no matter who else is in it.  I will never condone or look the other way when violence is involved, regardless of who's doing the hitting.

                    Reply#4 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

                    I download free movies but not Mel Gibson movies ever. What a bigot!

                      #4.1 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:01 AM EDT

                      I quit watching Gibson's stuff after his drunken tirade when he went off on Jews. I don't know what was worse--his drunken bigotry, his BS denials, or his empty apologies. The guy is messed up.

                        #4.2 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT
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                        Surely no one is actually surprised by this. It's pretty typical behavior of homophobes, racists and anti-Semites, all of which he seems to be in spades.

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                        Reply#5 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:59 PM EDT

                        he's nuts...

                          Reply#6 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT

                          The guy is a sanctimonious pig, a lousy actor and director, and a thoughtless breeder. He lacks regard for anything not "Mel" and deserves no kind treatment. He's an abuser. When will humanity ever knock the stupid stars out of their own eyes?

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                          Reply#7 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT

                          What??? He's asking her if she is nursing with "foreign objects"??? Like he wasn't already aware that she had implants?? Oh yeah...she is 15 years younger so I guess he thought her breasts were just young and firm.

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                          Reply#8 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:28 PM EDT

                          Will the real Archie Bunker please stand up?

                            Reply#9 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:06 PM EDT

                            Mad Max rides again!

                              Reply#10 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:09 PM EDT

                              I will never watch another film that he's in or anything else that Mel Gibson has anything to do with. This man is so out of control, I can't believe it. I've been a victim of domestic abuse and he's worse than what I went through. Well, almost. My ex did strangle me unconcious, and while I was out cold from being strangled shaved my head and raped me. I F****** HATE abusers.

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                              Reply#11 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:11 PM EDT

                              shaved ur head? and then raped u? how do you know he didn't rape u and then shave ur head? ur jumping to conclusions - u wern't even awake- who would want to rape a bald women? I mean cmon!

                                #11.1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:59 PM EDT
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                                Hey Mel...Jesus drove your kind OUT of the temples you are a racist, women beating peice of trash. FYI Going to confessions to condone your immoral filth with your "Hide pedophile priest' catholic church is as much as az joke as you turned out to be His children should be ASHAMED to acknowledge him...and send him back to Austrailia ( sorry my Aussie mates)

                                  Reply#12 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT

                                  South Park has this guy nailed...he is an absolute nutcase, and a dangerous one at that. What a cowardly piece of crap he is...and to think he plays tough guys in movies, and hits women holding babies in real life. C'mon, Mel...I'm not holding a baby! And I'm Jewish, so I would absolutely love to kick the living crap out of you, you sanctimonious bastard!!

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                                  Reply#13 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT

                                  This man needs to be placed in prison and he knows it.  Given his beliefs it clearly shows a mental state in trouble.  No wonder his wife divorced him, what a loser!!

                                    Reply#14 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT

                                    Walt...

                                    You want more slack? Quit spewing that venom and maybe less people will hold the opinion that I now have of you.

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                                    Reply#15 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:41 PM EDT

                                    Oksana's Breast Surgery:
                                    http://www.picturesplasticsurgery.com

                                      Reply#16 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:44 PM EDT

                                      This is just terrible! All of the panting and nasty things that came out of his mouth - and to think that this was just one conversation - Yikes! She was calm for much of the time and he was still out of control with his screaming. He is quite psychotic and desperately needs help before he messes with the wrong woman and she ends up on Snapped! There is absolutely no excuse for what he did and/or said. Nutcase, nutjob, crazy, psycho, deranged, flawed, insane, impractical, erratic, obsessed, control freak - hmm, hmm, yeah, he's all of that! But in the end, alone is what he'll be. God bless you Oksana - run as far away and fast as you can!

                                        Reply#17 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:51 PM EDT

                                        I think besides being a racist, a bigot and a misogynist, I think Mel has some serious mental issues and needs extensive mental health care.

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                                        Reply#18 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:09 PM EDT

                                        He better hurry up and do an Oprah show before she retires!

                                          Reply#19 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:29 PM EDT

                                          Why is msnbc carrying this story continously? Gibson is a movie person; don't go see his movies. Does msnbc carry the story on the black panthers intimidating white people on election day and the DOJ dorpping the case. Heavens NO  this is why the network is going down the toilet.

                                            Reply#20 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:33 PM EDT

                                            DOJ dropped the case for the same reason they drop all cases -- they aren't cases you fricken moron.

                                              #20.1 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:40 AM EDT
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                                              I think what he has done is wrong! BUT how are these conversations getting to the press? I think she is leaking everything to get symphathy. It makes you wonder what she has done and how much of it is actually true!!!!! She does not sound like she is a very nice person either!!!! It takes two!!!!!!!

                                                Reply#21 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:39 PM EDT

                                                Come on folks. Let's be alittle forgiving here. Mel, you need to get back to being a Christian. Honey, go to Church!!! Pray that God forgives you (AND HE WILL,IF YOU MEAN IT.). Ask God to help you get your life back on track. Then go to your Ex-wife. Tell her FIRST, how sorry you are for letting in the outside evil that has obviously been controlling you lately. Then go to Oksana, and beg her, yes beg her, to forgive you. You were wrong brother. I don't care how mad she makes you, walk away. Even if you can not be together, you have a daughter, and you need to be able to be there for her. I wish you and your family the best. God bless you. (I have hope for you.)

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                                                Reply#22 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:45 PM EDT

                                                It's going to be as difficult for me to separate his beliefs and his speech from his art as it was in the case of the Dixie Chicks.

                                                  Reply#23 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:48 PM EDT

                                                  I just listened to the tape. SHE DESERVES AN OSCAR!!!!! She played hima nd knew exactly what to say to make him blow. She just wants money, that is the only reason she jumped into bed with him in the first place. A baby was a bonus and a guarantee paycheck! Anyone that doesn't see it needs medication!! She is feeding off of symphathy for the baby. Get the baby away from both of them and see how she reacts. She is not a sweet angel that has been bullied by the big bad wolf. She is the shewolf.

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                                                  Reply#24 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:53 PM EDT

                                                  That was my point. I just said it nicer. Mel was the only one in the world when he started this relationship with a younger women , not to see a baby coming, and so forth. It is just a down hill spiral for him. For any man that thinks leaving his wife (the mother of his other 6 kids), for a younger woman is just what he needs. Men don't think with there brains. That's why they are so easily controlled. Like I said Mel, GO BACK TO CHURCH!!!! It is your only hope to save your family now. Stop this all about me BS. and do it for them.

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                                                  #24.1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:04 PM EDT

                                                  Go back to church, really? He IS the Catholic church incarnate

                                                    #24.2 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:42 AM EDT

                                                    Lynn and Krista, I thought exactly the same thing when I heard the tape - she's after a paycheck. She new exactly how to bait him to lose his temper. She's playing him big time, you can hear it in her voice. Now if he really did hit her, he was very wrong and the police will deal with him, but if you're being abused, you would turn the evidence over to the police and not sell it to the media.

                                                      #24.3 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:55 AM EDT
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                                                      If I hear he is going to some kind of racist, women abusing, self help treatment I think I might hurl! Mel you are done. Nobody has any respect for you. Men like you easily forgotten. Of course in Hollywood all will probably be forgiven in days

                                                        Reply#25 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:14 PM EDT

                                                        Walt, Maybe you need to learn forgiveness. I am not saying that Mel needs to be babied and treated any better than anyone else for what he has done. But he is in the public. You can not tell us that you have NEVER done anything that you wished 2 seconds after you had done it, that you would not have done it. He can't even appologize without everyone knowing it. He was very wrong. But if he says he was wrong and his family forgives him, so should you.

                                                          #25.1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:26 PM EDT

                                                          We are not God or his priest and although I find his behavior disgusting and vile, I pray for his soul and feel sorry for someone who has had every advantage and carries so much hate for others in his heart. This is not what the Catholic church teaches.

                                                            #25.2 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:20 PM EDT

                                                            I_Fortuna, what a great post! Your comment shows what a charitable mind and heart you have. Peace be with you.

                                                              #25.3 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:54 AM EDT

                                                              Every Catholic man I know treats women as lesser beings -- unless of course they have left the cult and reject their horrific views and the role of women.

                                                              By all means forgive him and leave it up to god to punish him, this way he can claim many more victims and spread his hateful ways until the day he dies. Hopefully he knocks YOUR daughters teeth out, eh?

                                                                #25.4 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:10 AM EDT

                                                                You don't know many Catholic men then. My entire family is catholic and would never hit or disrespect a woman.

                                                                  #25.5 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
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