Accidental overdose? Could happen I suppose. Assisted suicide? If so, I'm willing to bet that the DR is long gone.

MJ, RIP. We will miss you.

If the police don't know who the doctor is, that means he left the house before the authorities arrived on the scene- without his BMW. Doesn't sound right.....

MJ was probably one of the greatest entertainers the world has ever seen. But the compulsive behavior with little boys (including the creepy literature the police found that included an "artistic" book of naked children), the way in which he sponged off of rich tycoons and making empty promises toward the end of his life, the way in which he screwed over Paul McCartney by buying the Beatles catalogue when he knew that McCartney was looking to buy his own work back after all of those years of not owning his own work- which was sort of sleazy and really infuriated McCartney...it's hard to ignore that stuff even in the context of his enormous talent and amazing charity work.

Since when is music costly? THEY get it for nothing. Perhaps the COMEBACK would be less than the DRAWBACK.

There is never enough for some people.

You fools think you're SO funny. Well, yer not. Those "jokes" (and I'm being nice calling them THAT) might be expected from 11-year olds, but not from adults. They're just STOOOOPID, ignorant, childish remarks.

Don't forget....they are children and this is to be expected. Anyway RIP MJ

Do you think it was planned? I didn't know that he had caregivers living with him; or was it a unlucky housecall? I don't believe it was suicide because the media reports indicated he was all excited to start his London tours: Why would someone so happy to restart his career commit suicide? It wouldn't make sense. Agree?

What concert did he fall off a stage?

I remember when he filmed a PEPSI commercial and his hair caught on fire years ago.

Just like Anna Nicole, you have all these YaHoos that are saying how 'concerned' they were for Michael; yet, NO ONE bothered until the poor soul is dead. The feeding frenzy over his estate will just be awful! I'm praying for his poor kids!

Outcome is scripted. Nothing happens by chance. Even if, jury pools are already profiled to produced the desired results. This is how they live.

who scripted those kids to be molested....sucks for them

With all the "friends" of Michael Jackson coming out of the woodwork to say what a good friend of the family they are and how grief stricken they are, I have to wonder which one of the family members or sycophantic parasitic "friends" will be the first to try to cash in on a book deal (probably the doctor ran off to get his manuscript into the mail first!). It should be out any day, if this thing runs true to form and there will be 30 or 40 of them out by the end of the year. Kind of sick, huh? Just sayin'

All the drugs in the World can't and couldn't fix Crazy..... If the drugs didn't come from this Doc he would have gone somewhere else... Doctor sometimes means Drug dealer. especially with these Hollywood types..

This is BS!

Michael Jackson reaped what he sowed. He lived a hard life style. He's one of the biggest celebrities in the world, the doctor did whatever Michael told him to do - such is the way with "stars" and their do whatever they want to do mindset. If this doctor didn't do it, some other one would have.

Michael was a little black boy that morphed into a white woman, I'm confident that process contributed to his early demise.

My condolences to the family and friends of Michael Jackson, but let's not look for a scape-goat. Michael lived hard and fast - there's no one to "blame".

Going after the doctor is a witch-hunt - plain and simple.

your screaming tirade is worthless eric, nobody even knows what you are blathering about .

MJ never had a chance, in spite of all that amazing talent.  He had no childhood, was expected to support that big family.  An enormous tragedy.  The family tried an intervention on his drug use, but he refused to go to tx.

Michael's life was very stressful.

I wouldn't be surprised if the doc gave him the wrong mix of medications. Micheal just got checked out for his London tour, he wasn't that sick then. I bet they find different meds in the car and the doc goes away for a while.

Morphine is a prescribed action if someone has an MI. Morphine effects the breathing by slowing it. It does not stop the heart directly.

Poor guy never enjoyed a single day of a normal life.

Two very important people in the entertainment industry passed away yesterday. The fact that there are people who are willing to make light of this is really very pathetic. Not only have the entertainment industry lost someone who was fundemental to the evolution of music spannig over several generations, but a family lost a father, a brother, a son. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but please be respectful of the people who are mourning the untimely death of a brilliant musician. RIP Micheal and Farrah, and my condolences to both families as the struggle to grasp with the reality and the grief of their loss.

The 911 transcript says that CPR was being administered to Jackson in bed. The way I was trained to do CPR is that the victim is to be moved to the floor or a harder surface so that the pumping is more effective.

Would a "personal physician" who is a licensed "cardiologist" not know how to do basic CPR correctly and have to be told by a phone dispatcher to "get him to the floor"? Something is fishy.

Well no matter what anyone else may say.  He touched alot of young people along the way

Actually, too much morphine administered would cause the person to stop breathing initially.  Eventually, without oxygen to fuel the heart, it would stop.

It wasn't morphine it was Demerol

the bible says "in the last days, the hearts of men will wax cold"-this is a great example that it's where we are already, hell is going to be soooooo crowded!!!!

Eric

straight?

I live in chronic pain from failed back surgery and it is quite hard to find a doctor to give you pain meds down here, yet the rich and famous are handed to them like they are candy. Where is this doctor, what is he hiding, if he were his doctor, why not be giving the police a statement right now. It will all come out in the autopsy. So sad he had these enablers. They are just slow killers to me. So sad, as I think Michael was frail anyway, he sure did not need pain meds thru it all. I do not understand that 911 call at all. Something is not right!!! RIP Michael....I pray you are in a better place.

My self I'm all ready sick of hearing about him .

I am utterly offended that the "details" of this death are investigated and publicized by MSNBC than all of the death-related crimes of the Bush Administration.

MSNBC, how dare you.

speak4you I caught that too.. why exactly was CPR being performed on a bed by a doctor who should know better?

In a 911 call released by fire officials, a caller reports Jackson was on a bed and not breathing or responding to CPR. The unidentified caller said Jackson only was with his personal doctor at the time.

Who cares what the man did for "pop" music he was a pedifile plain and simple, just had enough money to buy his was way out like every other celebrity. I say good riddance. All you people praising this man I have one question, would you leave your kids at his house???

You people are heartless. Stop being so cruel. Do you feel good hurting people? If the answer is yes you need help.

Whatever caused his death, I sincerely hope, with all my heart, that he made his peace with God and that he is resting in the arms of the Lord. He was a broken soul and if he made his peace with God, he is finally healed. God bless you, Michael. Rest in peace.

I think enough is enough, we as a society should write and pass laws that would hold Dr.'s accountable for the prescriptions they administer. Why would anybody prescribe drugs to someone that could be lethal, and leave that person to administer their own dosages? Michael was probably aching from all of the rehearsing he was doing and thought that taking a little more of whatever he was already on wouldnt hurt. His personal Dr. probably didnt even know what he had already taken. He should be held responsible. Why would you become someones personal Dr. anyway unless you were nothing but a sell out.

Morphine is a central nervous system depressant. Large doses can stop breathing leading to cardiac arrest.

Do they throw patients on the floor in the hospital to administer CPR?

brandon, WTF does any of this have to do with Bush?

I'm offended that some idiot would try to blame this on bush.

how dare YOU drag your whining little political BS on a micheal Jackson thread

Yes, I believed  that there was something relating to the concerts that played a large part.  I know AEG was VERY concerned about his ability  to do the shows ( which would have stopped at 10  not 50.  They KNEW he could not do the 50.   AEG was only able to get insurance against 10 concerts.  That says something right there.  AEG never figured more than 10, and doubted it would be more than 1 or 2.

MJ was TOTALLY  out of CASH. The 10 million advance  was it. All he had. Not doing the shows would have resulted in a massive lawsuit and total financial death. He would be living with his parents again.

People involved in rehersals  staples , repeatedly said that he looked bad, and very out of it. What is written in this story was untrue.  He was hours late, if he showed at all.

MJ was very cunning and knew show biz. Take having Paul McCartney telling his during Ebnoy and Ivory recording that the Beatles catalog was fr sale and Paul was going to buy them.   It was a statement made to a friend.   What does MJ do?  Immediately orders his biz people to buy the catalog..   Paul McCartney NEVER spoke about, or to MJ again.  He was PO'd !!!!!!     But it was a shrewd move.

he always imagined himself like elvis, or in relation to other people.   He KNEW   he could not do those concerts.  He KNEW if  he didn't, that everything was gone.  He was PETRIFIED as only MJ could be about how he would be percieved.   Was he going to get on that stage and not be able to perform, or have it look like Britnay Spears on the MTV awards?    The thought SCARED him.

He recorded 100  songs. Final, with step by step written and filmed  dance  Chorography. They were to be released only in death.  so that is like  10-13 cd's  he has complete.  In death , 1-15 on Amazon  sales list is MJ stuff. Everywhere.  Did he know he was worth more dead?  Count on it.

Let's also remember, that he was perfectly willing and capable to give himself  his own IV shot.  He often did  in front of people  over the last few years.   He was shotting up in front of people, which is why the physicals and such were part of the concert  contract.

If the Dr gave him that shot, IV, in his home , he would have been arrested  already.  The only problem he MAY have is justifying the prescriptions ( which I am sure he can).  Had a Cardiologist given him that shot, he knew about drug interactions, and would have had a shot ready just in case this happened. It is standard for anyone who gets morophine or Demerol.  He would have had it right there while he gave him the demerol. No if's  about that.

So, did the Dr give him the shot, or was MJ sneaking and giving himself the shots also, without he Dr knowing.?  There is no Drin the world that would give him  the standard 100 mg dose without the "antidote" in case of respitory failue.

 did he take 20 Xanax and get a shot?   A Dr will not prescribe you xanax  and morophine based pain meds at the same time for this very reason.  It causes a person to stop breathing. That's the reason for the hus hush. I dont believe the Dr gave him that shot, and even if he did, what did MJ take before and not tell the Dr ?

Yes, in going out, he is no longer scared of how his performance was going to be. He didn't need the concerts to regain his populaity.  The name of the tour was   " The last Time"  ?? 

MJ was shrewed, smart, intelligent genius. He studied other people. As Lisa Marie said  about him always talking about her fathers death, and he certainly saw Elvis  go from being broke ( his money was stolen by the  the man in the hat)  to being a "godlike " figure in history.  So, he got what he wanted. No concerts, his estate will be worth billions over time , now that he isn't spending, he has recaptured  his heyday, and went out the King Of Pop.

Yes, I think he had a very good idea how to  end his enormous pain in life, set his kids, pay back the debt, and put his rightful place in history.  Everything he wanted to reclaim. He did in death

By dying , he put it all back together. Was he shrewed, smart, and scared enough to do this?   You betcha.

He told many friends he would be gone soon. 

MJ is another victim of our deadly medical system....millions of people around the world have met the same fate....and yet our government insists on using the same model in their so-called health reform. Death by doctor is the third leading cause of death....we lose 250,000 a year in America from medical error and neglect. Everyone has been made perfectly aware of the medical genocide taking place....but have refused to speak up and stop the madness......making you and your sacred cows responsible for their deaths.

It seems to me that when you combine.... prescribe..... and inject someone with a deadly dose of drugs you have committed foul play.....Our physicians must be held accountable for the death and destruction they cause..... they know the effects of the drugs they push.....

Why is it a rich man/woman can get all the pain killers they want...no matter how dangerous...even if it's obvious they only need them because of addiction? I needed vicodin for a root canal and the dentist gave me crap about it.

GOZO has it exactly right. If the doctor was giving him all of these narcotics, it is gross negligence and he should have his license revoked. No one learned from Anna Nicole or Heath Ledger?

I guess if you have the money, you can be your own pharmacist.

Why is this whole deal such a news worthy story? He did drugs, he over medicated himself over and over again. The family is financially broke because of his lavish spending and other vices. Bury him and be done with it. Auction off his stuff, there are enough fools out there that will pay a king's ransome for it, no questions ask.

I am a chronic pain patient and have been under care of a physician who specializes in Pain Management. I have used the drugs that MJ did, although I'm not using them currently.

First off, unless someone starts an IV, any shot would probably be IM or in the muscle. (or SQ under the skin) Huge difference in how quickly the drug enters the system and at what concentration. These drugs are also available in pill form. Morphine and I never got along, I was always violently ill. I had morphine in an intrathecal pump that delivers the drug to the affected area (my lower back) and got sick all over the place until it got out of my system.

Demerol is a good drug. The oral form didn't help me with pain, however the IM worked pretty well. The goal is to relieve the pain with few side effects and still be able to function. I did have IV Demerol once and I was out within about 10 seconds.

I doubt that MJ had an IV that would have to be cared for several times a day, so maybe an IM injection would have been used. I know some people who inject themselves. I'm chicken and scared of needles.

The issue becomes the strength and quantity of drug used. There are interactions listed with other drugs, and a physician will start with the lowest dose, only increasing if the pain isn't under control. This is a monitored process and one that takes weeks to get the correct dosage.

A key point here is to follow Dr's orders. Increasing dosage can be fatal. The drugs themselves are necessary for a lot of chronic pain patients, people with cancer pain and end of life pain. If you swallow a whole bottle of Tylenol, you might be just as dead.

A mistake is always a possibility, and MJ may have injected the wrong strength, or too much of the right strength. Or, maybe his heart just gave out from the stress and the long term drug use. If these reports are true, and he didn't seem well in the last few weeks, then perhaps he wanted his Dr close by to keep an eye on him. The fact that he requested the Dr makes me feel that he was afraid or scared by his health but not suicidal.

I feel for his children, family and close friends. He was too young!

I'd like to see an investigation of his finances. The FBI should look into where all of Jacko's money has gone. He made megabucks and it didn't evaporate. Managers, financial advisors, I smell a moneygrubbing, thief!!!!!!

Speakforyou,

You're right. I'm certified in cpr and you always get a person on a hard surface, not a bed or couch. While mouth to mouth isn't as important there were two people there and they could have done that, too. A cardiologist could not possibly be so stupid to make that mistake right out of the gate.

This whole thing stinks though..Too Many WTF moments.

1st red flag. What Dr, any Dr does not know that CPR is done on the floor or a hard surface to be affective? Also I would imagine as an inhouse Cardiologist, He would have had portable defibralator and supplies. Also He was supplying Narcotics/pain killers to Michael. As a Dr, He should have had the life saving Narcon drug in supply to counter an accidental OD.Even if drugs were not a factor he should have had proper CPR, and a defibrilator. This whole thing stinks worse then road kill. This DR has lots of questions to answer, and I am glad the Jacksons are seeking a second Autopsy.

R.I.P Michael

a very, very sad BIG LOSS here..tragic that so many turn to a dangerous self-destructive lifestyle, including the very rich and famous..sorta seems to be the freedom of some American individuals..the doctor was more than likely manipulated by Michael..he had fame/ fortune and that has much more power..Michael was responsible for his own actions, he was a grown man that should have set his own limits..to go under the knife and microscope twice is even more heartbreaking..the family wants answers, the damage has been done..perhaps no one will never know the GODS Truth behind closed doors..Michael RIP, you will be missed by many for years to come......

Boy, doesn't take Jesse Jackson and Sharpton long to try to get into the limelight! I sure hope the doctor was black or we'll never hear the end of it.

All the weird treatments he went through- it is no wonder he died this young. Not long ago he was in a hospital in England for some body infection caused by his whitening treatments. He just never could accept he was a black man.

How is it possible that anyone connected to the music business be dishonest? It's just not possible. Ask anyone about their favorite celeb. How can they do wrong? These people are squeaky clean.

Farah died yesterday and went to Heaven, God asked is there anything he could do for her. She said she wanted all little children to be safe, Michael Jackson immediately dropped dead.

I read it was demoral not morphine.

do they KNOW that the doctor wasn't rolled up in a carpet, and hauled out in the moving van?

anyone notice how they keep saying no one is in the room with mj exept the dr. but what about the guy on the phone he has to be in the room,i dont know but something aint right here

There are those who don't realize that most pain killers are narcotics. A lot of them are prescribed as "as needed for pain". There it is. I hurt---take a pill. Jackson had chronic pain as a result of his injuries. Some doctors will tell you to take some aspirin and deal with it. Others start writing scripts. What Jackson was taking should be pretty clear. The question becomes how much was he taking. I, myself, have had the kind of pain that takes your breath away---can't breathe---excruciating pain. I just tell the doc "give me the morphine". Morphine will kill a lot of pain for a short period of time. That's why it's addictive. We will see. My plain uninformed guess is Michael's 50 year old ticker just quit due to the strain of rehearsal??

how about someone not blowing smoke up my ass for a change.

he was a goddamned pedofile who got away with his crimes because of money. yes he made a hell of a mark in the music industry, but a pervert is still a pervert. i hope he is burning in hell right now.

Well even in death, Jackson got abused....now what will be all the news stories will be how badly the family fights over all his "stuff", stand by eBay!!!! This is all such a joke, let him rest in peace. Get this over with.

I've heard the mother is taking two of the children but not blanket. I suppose nobody wants a used blanket.

Is anyone else just plain sick of this story being the only news most networks find worthy of our time?? ENOUGH already! MSNBC is really getting stupid with this. We really thought better of you. Give it a rest.

Speculations, assumptions, sorces say, they said, he said, I heard that, etc., etc., it goes on and on! I will wait until the FINAL hour when a reliable professional comes forward with the report!! In the mean time - REST IN PEACE MICHAEL!!!

Also, have any of you ever listened closely to Michael's song - "You Are Not Alone?" For some reason that song seemed to fit right into Michael's passing. In other words, he seems to give a prediction about dying in that song! I play it over and over again, and listen to the words, and YES, I cry each time!!!! What a great song to play at his funeral services and a great message for the family! Check out the video on YouTube and listen carefully!!

Who cares..... the freak is dead and all little boys in the world are now safe! What really bothers me is EVERYONE is focused on the circus show freak and no one cares or shows they do for the other icons who passed away this past weekend. What a jacked up culture we live in............

How could anyone even remotely connection with the music business have anything to hide or be dishonest in a manner? They are all pillars of society. Why even waste the time of asking questions?

Let's see:

The doctor worked for the concert promoter.

Simple:

See how much life insurance they took out on Michael.

Like the guy who owned the Twin Towers took out a several
billion dollar policy to include terrorism a few months before 9/11.

This isn't rocket science but unfortunately people can't handle the truth.

I hear ya Annoyed Citizen... Why do they wait until it's to late??? I understand that these people are rich and famous and some were probably afraid that if they tried to do something, they'd be cut out of their lives but if that was YOUR FAMILY MEMBER, YOUR BEST FRIEND, would that stop you from trying to get them help?? It certainly wouldn't stop me. At least I'd know, should anything like this happen to my loved one, that I did everything I could!!

People in addiction don't realize that when you're trying to get them help, that you're doing it out of love, out of concern for them. Because they are NOT thinking clear, it IS up to YOU, a family member, a friend, etc. to do something. I just don't understand why after these stars die we start to hear just how concern this person or that person was for them. It makes no sense.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the family and especially his kids!!! Peace

My goodness, Why collapse these comments - What happen to freedom of speech? Seems you cant say nothing against Michael or you will be deleted!

um...dave...you can UNcollapse them. Grow up.

bckm - I didn't now that, They shouldn't be collapsed in the first place! Unless its really bad..

dave-786070

There isn't any such thing as freedom of speech on NewsVine..It's a private business and is controlled by them..Tyler can delete your post if you step over the line..I do agree though that collapsing a post because you don't agree with the posters comments is childish.. They shouldn't allow the community this power..

Why not? It can be uncollapsed and read by anyone that cares to. Just like people vote on your post when they like it so they can collapse it when they don't. It's just a way of saying your post sucks.

And agreed newsvine has the right to delete any comment they want. That has nothing to do with freedom of speech or the Constitution.

Just the way guys like dave think. They don't get it. They spew vitriol and think they have some right to be aholes on a private site.

All doctors are above it all.

FOR DAVE -

I agree with the other poster, you can uncollapse it anytime, duh?! Many of the posters probably didn't like some of the negative words that you were speaking, for instance, some moron said that the mother was taking two of the kids and not Blanket, because nobody wants a used blanklet!! See, stupid insensitive words like that gearing towards children are reasons why posters collapse those remarks!!

American Wolf.

I realize you defend Dave only because you guys are quite alike. It's easier for you to be mean and nasty, rather than civilized with intelligent discussion.

It's one thing to disagree with what MJ was about, it's another to come here and make derogatory comments about a guy who had serious problems, and by the way, did contribute huge amounts to the culture of American music. Whether you think it or not.

"Publicly viewable" doesn't mean it's a publicly owned site!
MSNBC owns it and can do what they want with it. What you don't understand is that this site is just another profit center for them. They get coin from their advertisers every time someone clicks into it. Including you! It's not a "public site". They set-up administrators to monitor and "censor" it as seen fit. Beyond that they could care less about it.

I don't spew vitriol, lol. I am fully against mean and senseless posts, not that I don't call out people once in a while, including you.

If nothing was censored on this site it would just degenerate into a bunch of flaming back and forth instead of constructive discussion, which it is pretty much heading to, anyway. I think you're taking the first amendment thing a little too literal.

While I certainly support your right to free speech, I don't support mean and nasty behavior hidden under the umbrella of free speech.

You seem like you don't like this country much. Flawed as it may be, there is NO place better.

You might want to try Iran or North Korea. No? Didn't think so.
You'd have already been executed!

And should be..These DR's dish out highly addictive pain medication like it's candy.

People don't hide without a reason. This man messed up somewhere in this big time.

Why is the Doctor scared?

He was in the ambulance, he talked to the Police on the same day twice, he gave permission without a warrant to take his car ( they would have needed a warrant otherwise) and the Police talked to him the next day. They even said they had already talked to him the first and second day. This was mis-reported. The PRESS couldn't find him. The Police knew where he was, and again, had talked to him brefiefly twice.

I think the confusion was that the Coroner's investigators ( taken over by Robbery & Homicide because of the who) . They knew where he was, had talked to him, and has already been interviewed once. The "formal" talk is standard, and even they say he is not a supect in any crime.

TMZ was wrong on that one. The Doctors problem will be if he was involved in the scripts found with 80 different names on them. Those were probably provided by his handlers aka the enablers.

Remember, he had a bill for prescriptions costing 100,000.00 at one pharamacy alone. MJ had been doing a ton of drugs over the last 5 years.

He had physical pain, and tons and tons more mental.

also, those saying he wasn't close to his family.... totally untrue. They had put he past behind them, and he talked with them, brothers included frequently.

as far as EMS , this had been going on over an hour before they were even called. My guess would be they found him dead already, tried to bring him back, and then called 911. Remember the EMS guys wanted to call him as soon as they got there.

Don

he was in debt over 500 million dollars and was being sued by anyone who ever heard his name. 700.00 an hour for attorneys is expensive in it'self.

He and AEG KNEW he could not do 50 concerts. AEG was paying for everything, including the house, the DR his phone bill, his security etc etc. This is very common in concert contracts. Remember Eddie Van Halen only wanted green m&m's? you should see these contracts of what promoters have to pay for, and things they ask for. 5 bottles of this, X number of tickets, certain hotel. all kinds of crazy stuff.

Let's see, he was making approx 20 million a year off his music and the Beatles ( he get's 1 penny every time a beatle song is played) and even in his heyday , he got the biggest contract in musical history, and it stands to this day . He got in his recording contract $ 2.67 for every album sold. That record stands today. No other entertainer has ever come close to that if they are signed by a label. Thats AFTER they take out recording fee's , music video's ( were Jackson expensive compared to most? Yup and he never was on time, so union rules means he paid double, and the production cost for a video alone with him was millions.

Just because he signed a ontract for 50 shows, doesnt mean he was going to do 50 shows. That would be extremely difficult for someone in the best of shape, let alone MJ and how his health was.

He has been mainlining Morophine and demerol for almost 10 years !!!!!!!!!

Did he give himself a shot and not tell the Dr , who then gave him his regular shot? Probably. standard dose would be 100 mg.as tolerance builds( and it does quickly) 125mg, 150, 200 !! mg The doctor would be giving him more than that. If he did, he would have had another shot ready that would immediately be given should he shown any sign of respitory failure. NO Dr in the World would not have had that in his hand every single time he gave him a shot EVERY single time.

I bet he gave himself one before the Dr came. You are going to see a very large bit of demerol, xanax and god knows what else in his system.

He was petrified about these concerts, and what does mj do when he is petrified? He takes something for the pain. So when the Demerol "wasn't working any more" the Dr woudn't have gone much over 150-200mg tops outside of a hospital. The guy is not stupid. His patients and collegues rave about this DR

I am sure he asked" MJ, did you take anything? " No and he gives him the shot, checks on him an hour later and he is not breathing. So, any Dr would reasonably conclude that MJ gave himself one before, or the shot the dr gave him wasnt enough, and he did more himself. He knew how to do it, and he was good at it.

BTW this Dr gave CPR to him for over 2 hours. Even after the EMS arrived , and wanted to pronounce him, this Dr wouldnt stop. You know how hard it is to give CPR for that long?

so do the math. He was totally insolvent,

Guess you can't be David Letterman on this one.

We'll see how much of a suspect the Dr. is when the toxicology reports come back.

I have no problem charging the doctor if he over prescribed. However, I blame Michael jackson the most. He's responsible for what he puts in his body. Here comes the "Blame everyone around you" strategy. An addict is responsible for their behavior, like it or not.

An addict is not responsible for his actions after they're as far gone as MJ. That's what a live in doctor is for. Is it MJ's fault? Of course.

You'd be surprised what most paramedics (NREMT-P) know. In an emergency situation, there is nothing a doctor can do (short of major surgery) that a medic can't do. It mostly depends on the protocols for the state and the paramedic's medical director.

paramedics are trained to deal with things like that...so im not shocked the paramedics were the ones trying to get him back.

This was not a suicide, accidental OD maybe. Yes he was depressed, yes he had some financial troubles but he was preparing to go on tour not check out..

Again I'll say no mention of him being severally under weight. That combined with the drugs = bad on the heart..

No suicide I'd bet on it..

what financial trouble, He had an upcoming series of sold out concerts. We don't know what his illness was so when we were saying that his illness was just a show, he probably was really ill. It is kind of weird that his doctor didn't seek to get him hospitalized sooner. But then the doctor probably didn't realise that things were that serious.

Who knows how long he'd been dead before the Dr started CPR? I'm sure that the Dr did everything he could.

If there were drugs involved, Demerol or morphine, then he died peacefully, and for that I'm grateful. He was having pain problems a few years ago during the trial, and stress can exacerbate pain. Let's not write him off as a bum on the street just yet, okay?

So, the doctor is at the house, giving CPR, and when the police show up, he is nowhere to be seen? Alright, why would a doctor not stay with a person, that has died, and wait for the authorities? Did he not take the hypocritical oath? Again, why would a DOCTOR leave the scene of a death? Seems to me that once that question is answered, we will know how he died: And probably know that the doctor helped kill him...

The Doctor was being bought off..........Michael Jackson was an addict.

I here ya! Whatever the cause is....somehow I believe it's gonna lead back to this doctor. Yeah, MJ's death is about to result in a BIG MESS no matter how you slice it...it's about to be some REAL drama unfold with lots of dirty laudry being aired because a 50 year old active man (assuming he really did and was able to do a 6hr reshersal session) just don't drop dead unless there are some unlying issues.

If they do sue...it better be for about $500 million...cause that's the number being bantered about for Michael's debt load. Even in death his estate can't support THAT payoff. Hopefully the three kids won't be destitute. What a sad sad ending for a life so full of talent and opportunities. I'll NEVER forget the Billie Jean Moonwalk on the Motown Anniversary Show when he debuted his desire to honor the Jackson 5 but also to move on. RIP Michael.

I was thinking the same thing Leo. I hope somehow they can figure out how to let the 50 concerts still happen and pull together big name folks like Paul Mccartney, Stevie Wonder, Quincy Jones, Janet and other Jackson siblings, Beyonce, Mary J Blige and the list could go on. At least some those of big names would still fill the seats for the tickets that were sold and those "BACKERS" that agreed to handle his debt would be able to at least keep the funding from the tickets of all of those sold out shows. BOY...like I said before...this is gonna be a HOT MESS in a BIG WAY!

And what's up with them not being able to find a will regarding guardianship of the kids???? All those damn attorneys he's had over the years and NOT ONE of them can put their hands on his legal papers regarding the kids???? THAT'S BULL CRAP and that means they were screwing him out of money along with all the folks that filed frivolous lawsuits against him.

CNN announced less than 30 minutes ago that Jackson owes 400 million dollars!!! What a shame that a big name allows someone to live an extravagant lifestyle off of idiots who are so bedazzled by celebrity when we ordinary people can't get one free pass on a public bus. Perhaps those lenders deserve to lose their investment. They should have used that money to do some good in the world rather than support a child molester.

Michael Jackson didn't get a "free-pass" resulting in his massive debt. Nice way to slip in class warfare in a board that should be discussing the untimely passing of one of, if not THE, most influential artist of our lifetime.

MJ wracked up massive debts due to his spending. Obviously the credit he was extended far surpasses anything we could ever imagine but try to think about the lines of credit someone with Michael Jackson's earning potential (past more so than present) would garner. At one time he owned 50% of the Beatles Catalog which is now valued between $1-4 Billion dollars.

In other words, MJ's debt, while unbelievable, is not that different from someone who makes $50K a year but owes $200K on their home, $30K on their car, and $25K in credit card debt. He was badly in debt...grossly in debt, but it doesn't mean he was being given a "free-pass." And any investor that provides credit to someone is taking an risk. In this case, his estate (what's left of it) will be liquidated to repay his creditors, but they most certainly will take a bath. Not unlike what would happen if you or I died before paying off our credit cards. It's no different. The only difference is in the scale and scope of his debt.

and you teach accounting and economics where exactly?
and the last time you had access to Jacksons financials?
thanks for the lecture on how this board should be for discussing the passing of the legend as
you winded on about something you know nothing about.

It takes a brilliant mind to get to the point of being $400 million in debt. Frankly, if a bank came to me and said, "will you take this $400 Million? It's yours for now, but you have to pay it back," I might just take it (and then pay it back with the interest it would be making.)

It would be a real stretch for most of us to be $400 thousand in debt!

b dune, HILARIOUS! You talk as though you know what you are talking about! My post was in response to another's claiming Jackson got "free-passes" because he was a celebrity which resulted in his massive debt. An argument of class warfare that I don't agree with.

I don't teach accounting or finance, but it is what I do for a living. Tell me what exactly you take issue with? Check out reports on the companies that issue Jackson credit and the billionaires that bailed him out in order to profit later on album sales, shows, and memorabillia which will now most certainly result in a substantial loss on their investment. Comparing the debt of an average American making over $50K to Michael Jackson is completley relevant. The example I provided shows someone who is in debt 5x over what they gross annually. At MJ's peak, he was earning over $100M a year so his current debt of roughly $400M is comparable based on his earnings.

no, but the people aound him are in trouble. there were over 80 different names on pill bottles and scripts. Want to bet those names match people who worked for him? Are you going tell your employer no when he asks you to go to some Dr and make a pain complaint to get scripts? If you say no, you are fired.

Listen AEG is a huge proffessional company. They hired and paid for the dr. do you think they checked him out? Count on it.

Don't kill this Dr yet. Jackson was a drug addict. You think he didnt have his own stash lying around? Did the Dr ask him if he took anything else and MJ said no? Did MJ lie to get another shot.

Xanax and morophine is DEADLY. They do not mix. It causes them to stop breathing. Sound like what happened??????????

He was probably dead for a time before they checked on him. Like i said, no Dr in the world would have given him IV demerol without the antidote in a syringe, next to him just in case this happened. EVERY hospital and DR would do this.

They took bags and bags of meds from this house. An addict will hide stuff everywhere. A very reasonable explaination was that the Dr would not up the dose, MJ would say it's not helping him, he needs more , and the Dr would not have done it. So , he goes to his stash and injects himself. 15 minutes later, he stopps breathing. Such is the addict.

This Dr was NOT a quack. Blame the drug addict's behavior on the Dr? That is enabling. something everyone, including his family was doing. they all knew. Sorry, but MJ was a serious Drug addict. This guy fought like hell to revive him when he was discovered.

Crazy stuff, I tell ya!

Will the REAL Dr. Pitterman please report to neurosurgery IMMEDIATELY!

the article actually said the doc was trying to revive him when they arrived. read the story people

like most drug addicts he prob had a lot of drugs in his home,the doc was getting rid of whatever he had to that had his RX on it,cleaning up i bet.

He did !! he was at he house. He was on his chest when EMS got there. They wanted to call it immediately. The Dr said no, lets try. They tried for almost an hour. The EMS didn't want to take him to the hospital. He was dead. The DR insisted and they took him to UCLA Med, where the Dr was giving CPR in the ambulance. He gets to the hospital, and the Drs there want to call him. This Dr says no, and continued himself for another HOUR. The police were already there. They talked to him there. They knew he was going hom and coming back. They inteviewed him briefly the day of the autopsy. He has to do a more formal interview for the corner's office, and the interview was to be conducted by Robbery and Homicide. They even said, they had talked to him, he was very co-operative, and they have a very good idea of what happened. Notice that everything is secret now? They deffered on the findings?

The toxicology is going to show massive levels of drugs. If the Dr gave him a shot, and Jackson lied about doing anything else , that is an adiict.

The only crime here is that EVERYONE knew about the drugs and MJ self injections IV of Demerol. They found it and syringes in his house 10 years ago, and even gave it back to him after he was aquitted. so that's almost 4-5 years ago.

Once again, AEG is a very large company. They do the Stones, U2 and just about everyone. They KNEW abut the drugs, and THEY hired the DR. You can bet that they checked out the DR as much as they did MJ's health. He had a 5 hour physical. they check everything. They have 100's of millions of dollars on the line, already spent 30 on the stage alone. They always cross their T's. They did this time too. They check everyone out

again, they could only get insurance on MJ for 10 shows. That says alot right there. In AEG itself, there was major doubt he could physically do 1 show, let alone 50.

OK seriously .. were you there? Ive been reading play by plays regarding this DR's actions at MJ's house and even in the ambulance and hospital, and Im hearing an account that Ive not heard before and can help but wonder how you know his every move. And if you are going by the news they also dont know exactly what happened. And the toxicology report .. well if it shows massive amounts of drugs then Im still sure the DR will be atleast partly resposnible, if nothing else he should have noticed Mike was loaded when he gave the last shot.. Also they will be able to tell if the DR gave him the Norcol stuff and how soon after or before he died due to circulation.. They have experts and while MJ may have medicated himself, if that was the case.. why keep a DR in the house???

As for his car being impounded.. YES it can be done without a warrant if the police have reasonable cause, especially since Robbery/Homicide are running the case for now. And frankly I dont care if the DR was sitting on his chest for hours after he was dead.. My questions are what did he do in the hours prior to Michaels death, and what was he doing for an hour attempting CPR before calling 911.

And .... Why not tell 911 it was Michael Jackson in order to hurry the ambulance and response team, instead of just calling him "A gentleman" And as someone from Las Vegas, Ive heard bad stories about this DR as well.. Ill have to look them up.. Im just saying something is not right here, and I cant help but wonder how it is you seem to "KNOW" what happened.

And Ive heard that AEG didnt want this DR, and wasnt happy about it.. That it was "Michael who insisted on his being on payroll"

As for Michaels debt.. I wouldnt worry, He will sadly be worth more dead than alive. His kids will be fine.

Also I find the disrespectful remarks made here a simple but sad reflection on those making them. How sad that so many leeches somehow make themself feel clever and superior by hurtful insults about a dead man.

And if some of you dont think MJ's death is newsworthy, or are tired of reading about it im sure there are hundreds of others topics to troll and make fools of yourself.

Perhaps the same doctor conducted the physical????

Good point. The one handing out pain meds as if Halloween was a 24/7 candy store

reader117; I agree with you completely! It seems like these creeps ooze out of the woodwork whenever any tragedy happens.

WHO is creepier than Michael Jackson? Seriously...he raped and molested and corrupted small children. He destroyed his own face. His own poor children are paraded around veiled like hideous monsters.

He owes millions. He's the biggest LOSER of our generation. It seems most people just can't think for themselves.

guys who dig little boys suck

Startrekker...who did Michael Jackson "rape?" Where does it say anywhere, even in the accussations that were ultimately either dropped or thrown out, does it state he was accussed of raping anyone? You can't throw words around like rape, an offense that is a very close second to murder, without knowing what you are talking about? What if you were arrested for having child porn on your computer only to have the chargers thrown out later because the files were actually on the computer when you bought it (this has happened when people buy used computers from a private seller). Would it be fair to call you a pedofile child molesting rapist for the rest of your life even though you were innocent in the court's eyes?

Double standard hypocrites.

The autopsy results haven't confirmed cause of death. Why are Oxman and Presley so sure they know what caused his death?

Also, why didn't they question the doctor and keep tabs on him from the time the emergency teams arrived? They didn't have sufficient evidence to prove cause of death yet and should have taken measures to keep track of the last person who was with MJ.

it's o.k. if you say the little boys consented but dammit don't say they were raped!!

He was never found guilty in a court of law. If a child has been molested and the parents settle out of court for MONEY?!?!....what kind of parents are they?

It's not about being right for him. He is going to name names. People close to MJ allowed this to go on. Especially his family.

His family new, his friends knew, everyone knew. They did nothing.

His very good friend Liza said " when the toxicology comes back, all hell is going to break loose". Hmmmm

True - privilege is only for the client - one who's alive.

JR in HB I don't think he was his attorney.

He was for the Jackson Family.

He was their FORMER attorney.

Any wonder why the country is in the state it is ? Half the Country is made up of half-wits who care more about a weirdo pedophiles death than they do about issues that really matter. I for one can't wait until all this crap is over with. I'm sick of seeing his freakazoid face every time I open my browser.

What happened to the coverage of Farrah ? At least she didnt prey on little boys.

Finally some people who get it. MJ was a sick man. His music was ok but all this baloney about how he revolutionized what ever is nonsense. He was a child molester, a dead beat and and just plain evil. Now we have to spend weeks listening to this creep being put on a pedestal while real news gets ignored.

You give way to much credit if you think the general population has a mental capacity above a 13 year old. 13 years ols are way smarter then these peope.

U took the time not only to read the article, but to respond to a post. If you do not appreciate his mucial skills or appreciate the person-.........

The news of what governor is screwing who is much more important to America.......

The news will always be there with the dismaying current events. But, the passing of Michael Jackson is news, too. If it wasn't, we wouldn't all be reading this article and taking the time to write posts.

Shout it from the rooftops. He was evil.

obviously YOU care if you're on here talking about it

I'm talking about it here because it gives me yet another chance to trash my favorite target - the media.

Yeah, this is newsworthy, but can the media just present it and move on to the next newsworthy item? Oh no; NBC broke into our local news program last evening 3 minuted before their scheduled evening news to tell us about Michael. They couldn't wait 3 minutes? Then, while I was on the treadmill this morning, Fox and CNN covered no other story continuously for 30 minutes. As I writer this, ABC radio news just consumed at least 2 of their 5 minutes on Michael.....

I don't want to get another scolding from the Newsvine sheriff, so I won't call the media morons - again.

I agree 1000%, he died, he's still dead & will be for a long time, a minute after hearing he kicked off I was already tired of hearing about it. The world knows so lets move on with important news, not senseless tabloid drival.

any death considered questionable would have law enforcement as a witness,especially a controversial celebrity

I agree! The whole "Hollywood" celebrity lifestyle thig is sad...chasing fame...they become slaves to it...and are surrounded by people who are not "real" enough to grab them by the shoulders give them a good shake and say...I care about you not your clebrity status so you can dump me as a friend if you want to but I need to tell you something... you are on the wrong path...let go of the past...

I guess people stoped caring about helping him out when he started messing around with their kids.

thinkaboutitfirst do you have your head up your a#*? Those who care far outnumber those who are making the nasty comments in this post especially you. If he had opened his Ranch and extended the invitation, the place would be over run with children whose parentswould take or send them. It was not until a couple of money hungry low-life people figured out a way to make easy money off of him that his career took a hit. Extortion is a nasty habit and all that goes along with trying to take a slice of what does not belong to you.

Say what you will, Michael Jackson achieved more greatness with the lift of his little finger than you ever will or hope to accomplish. He achieved such greatness that even he could not top it. And, in other countries besides the United States that don't have the judgemental hypocrites like you passing off their worthless opinions, he is very loved or have you missed that on the TV as well.

You indeed are a very sick individual. Mad because you did not get a chance to extort him as well?

Could not have said it better myself. Nice to know that there are still people out there that do not feel into the media lies and the people trying to make it rich by using their children to extort those wealthier than themselves.

The Dr was there , contracted by AEG promotions , you know, the promoters.

This Dr has zero complaints, is very well respected, and LOVED by his patients.

Once again, a company such as AEG ( let's call them the Apple of concerts) checks EVERYONE out . AEG is based in LA, and they also knew about the drugs that were supposedly being abused by Jackson. That's why he was given a 5 hour exam, and they wanted a DR with him at all times.

Perfectly normal for who they were risking a Billion dollars on, and the rumors of rampant drug use. LA is a small town. EVEYONE knew about his drug use.

So do you think a Multi-Billion dollar company checked out the Dr before they hired him? Yup, count on it. I wouldn't blame this DR quite yet.

If anything, he MAY be brought before the medical board for not registering his credentials in CA. Technically he is supposed to, but remember MJ was living in Las Vegas and was only in LA to practice at the staples center, which is very close to what the O2 arena is.

This is a common practice to go to a city to rehearse in a certain stadium. Many bands and big tours use University of Arizona footabll stadium to rehearse

But believe me, they checked this Dr out before hiring him. They knew about his health before they signed, and the live in Dr was part of the deal. common sometimes these days. AEG is not run by stupid people. They were protecting their money. Their money was MJ doing the shows. Even those were in doubt long before the ast couple of days.

so they know the rumors about extensive drug use, so they had a Dr there 24/7

Bobby, I couldn't agree with you more! Note that even an annual check-up at the Dr would usually require blood draws to check for potential nasty things going on with his system. I would expect that MJ's Dr had the results of the physical right down to the lab reports and his pregnancy test.

I believe that MJ's death was caused by an ACCIDENTAL overdose. There are too many professionals in the mix (The DR, AEG, even MJ) that were all interested in MJ as a performer--they never would have let him get bad drugs or something stupid.

As far as the "thousands" of dollars of Rx's. That's really not uncommon. My Rx expense last year was $6000. I am a chronic pain patient and I take five drugs, three of them for pain or to relax muscle spasms. Also, from a privacy standpoint, I imagine that a lot of Hollywood types have their Rx's filled under someone else's name. Even a prescription for an antibiotic or cough syrup could cause a huge uproar for a performer and their backers.

I'm speaking anonymously of course, because I'm not authorized to discuss anything (according to my kids)

Yes, but i also read somewhere else, (could be true, may not be) that when the medics got their...the doctor wasn't there any longer.....now why wouldn't he stay with the guy when he was dying or already dead till the medics got their??

The Dr. was in the ambulance with Jackson.

HI EVERYBODY!!!

Lol he was one the of the best characters on the Simpsons. Remember the episode with the infomercial about the fruit juicer? IT"S WHISPER QUIET!!!!!

I'll bet Bush did....

well him and david were both kinky!

Oh C'mon! David Carradine? Aren't we grasping at straws to make a mockery of a man's death? I said on another VINE that it is up to God to Judge Micheal Jackson not you or me. I don't like what happened or what I heard in those child molestation trials. I don't condone his " Getting off" or " Getting out" of his case. ( Excuse the rhetoric) ( no bad intentions, there) I am thinking that is pathetic that there are so many Judges! We are subject to scrutiny in purgatory- Heaven? Hell ? is up to GOD! Let the man Rest, already!

Another issue: Elvis had been pushed into directions by Colonel Parker, just like Michael Jackson was harshly pushed by Joe Jackson ( his own father ) They both liked the limelight, but they should've been allowed to bring up their own stars on their own; They were stabbed in the back by greedy people! They were both generous lonely, sick men They weren't perfect - Who is? They were both excellent entertainers in their own right yet both lonely in the end even if they were loved and surrounded by many!!!! RIP

You're kidding me, right?