Quit whining already! Nothing is for sure, or forever, should have thought about that when they decided to have a litter of babies! And what person would not need a break when their significant other just does not have nice things to say to them (Kate to Jon).

I feel for the whole family, and pray that Jon will learn that drinking and partying with college girls isn't the constructive way to handle frustration and feelings of insecurity. Kate hasn't changed, and no one deserves to be deceived by someone who uses excuses to cover up sneaky behavior. Kate's the one that people tune in to watch, although she's abrasive at times, she's the glue that holds that family together.

My heart went out to the whole family this episode.  I must admit that I wasn't going to watch it because of the hype, but there really isn't anything else on TV.  I thought Kate, for once, was real.  In the past she has painted her family as being perfect, and her fights with Jon as being nothing.  Now she can't, and the whole world knows it.  I have been called the names of my daycare workers before, it does suck and it's easy to see how that can hurt the first few times.  But is it realistic to tell her to stay home?  As Jon said himself, this is now a business, and in order for them to maintain their lifestyle, it has to be done (who else noticed Jon's new little white sportscar?)  I feel for the little ones who want thier parents at home, but either through creative editing or not, they seemed to be happy.  What I did think was interesting was Kate's comments about how the older two are stepping up to the plate.  I wonder if they know more about what is going on then the camera is really showing...I bet 10 minutes with Maddy and she would tell you!

why don't they just move to some country where pimping ones' kids out for $ isn't such a big deal? they are disgusting...

I never watched the show. Sorry to hear things are going downhill fast. I hope they work on repairing the marriage before it is too late.

I think it's sad that Kate says (and maybe even believes) she is doing everything (this show, traveling to promote her book, etc.) for her kids. Does she really think that those precious children care more if she writes a book about them than if she spends time with them and their father? and how are they going to feel about her ten years from now when they realize that because she wanted to continue the show when Jon didn't that it may have cost them the two parent family they had and deserved to have? And when she showed some emotion with a few tears that could have made me feel some empathy for her the first words out of her mouth were "sorry, I didn't want to ruin my makeup". that pretty sums up Kate Gosselin - she wants the attention this show provides her at the expense of her children and Jon.

I don't see Kate as someone open to compromise so unless Jon decides to play by her rules,I don't see a lot of hope for this marriage. I think last night was the last time I watch the show. It can only get worse from here.

I only saw the program once - that was enough. She was constantly on him for this and that; she was treating him like a ninth child. They can be so disrespectful of each other; it was uncomfortable to watch. Most people who treat each other like that seek counseling or get a divorce. I want to know what kind of parent or spouse can criticize someone so often, so publicly and feel that's okay, show or no show. Poor kids.

Pretality TV - Maybe that was the best avenue to financially support a family of 10. I don't know - I'm glad I wasn't in that position. Somehow I don't think it was really a good decision for anyone other than the producers and advertisers. I hope the kids will get through it OK.

I'm on neither ones side but caught a bit of last nights show and here's what po'd me. Kate said she was disturbed because for the first time one of her kids called her by the nanny or babysitters name. She said that was OK because the kids were being well taken care of or something to that affect.  I think that's totally wrong; a mother should not spedn so much time away that the kids don't even know her by name

I am a big fan of the show and did watch last night. Kate always was abrasive towards Jon and admitted that she was and has been "hard" on him. I felt she treated him like one of the children. Maybe that is what he needed but at times, Kate was very disrespectful towards him. Reality is good but this was way over the line.

I feel they both need to grow up - they are acting like children themselves at times. Jon stated last night "we did not ask for this" - well sorry, maybe this was all Kate's idea but you are an adult too and if you did not want to do this (the show) then you needed to have some kahounas and say so instead of going along. Now it is too late and there is probably contracts that have to be fulfilled and now the press if after you and you don't like it. I so say too bad for that. That is the way it is in this country. Is it right? No - I don't agree with the "hounding" of people but it is what it is right now.

Kate - you need to get over your anger. You may have a right to it but grow up! You are a very controlling person and you cannot control your spouse or change him. Work on yourself. I do wish you both the best of luck however. I for one, am pulling for you both to work it out and I hope to God this is not a publicity ploy for ratings. Then, I'll never watch your show again.

P.S. I always wondered why Maddie had such problems - that may be a clue you should get out. This may haunt you both and her for a lifetime.

kate, get over yourself ! If you are tired of the paparozzi why did you have the birthday party in a public place !!! you are a fortunate woman to have those beautiful health children ! Also the funds from your reality show to support the fabulous lifestyle you are leading !!!! how selfish of you !!!! quit beating on your husband and show some love !

who can blame the guy? that woman is a dragon..

Even the sister in law jumped into the fray accusing the show of being fake (really!) methinks someone as a case of money envy...

Cash in John then get out with your kids, this woman is out her rocker.. reminds me of the crazy blond lady on Mad TV..

This is so interesting to me, to watch how this plays out.  I wish I could get a word to them.  I, like Kate, can be a control freak and nitpicky.  My husband can roll his eyes and do things to keep the peace.  It's a flaw I know I have and try to work on.  What fascinates me is that during a time in our marriage (which is about twice as long as J & K's) when I was the 'breadwinner' and my husband stayed home with the kids, we had a similar situation arise.  Resentment arose, perhaps some demasculinization and my husband sought out the non-sexual company of female friends.  I'm sure they were positive and upbuilding and made him feel great at a time when he felt trapped.  I did not excuse the behavior, was hurt terribly by it and he was remorseful.  We made some changes in our marriage and huge changes in our communication style.  He went back to work, with my full support, blossomed in his career and we added two more kids to our mix.  It was a good turning point for us because we learned and grew from it.  None of the kids remember the tension, as they were pretty young (or not born) and I think they have better parents for it because we are not as immature as we had been.  Bottom line, Jon and Kate CAN make it through - and with flying colors.  The big question is, can they do it with America watching, or should they give up the show and salvage a great thing?  I, for one, would be willing to give up watching the adorable rugrats to see them succeed.  Kate will have to watch her desire to be in the limelight.  Mady didn't get her camera stealing personality from nowhere.  And Jon needs to 'man-up' a bit and take charge of some things here and there, ignoring Kate.  He's not an idiot, he'll succeed.

"I have a lot of anger."...I am sure her anger is targeted at everyone else but herself. I remember when they used to go to church and put God first in their life. How time and $$ changed that. She kept saying that she is doing this for her children. When will she realize that all her children need is mommy and daddy to be there for them. No amount of $$ will ever replace the love both of them can give. I do believe there is hope. They do love eachother. They need to put their marriage first and rearrange their priorities. I won't be watching the show anymore...only because it is so sad to watch. It used to be cute and fun.

I dont think the show is "fake" but it is "staged" there is a difference. Staging just gives them interesting things to do that might interest the audience. I feel that Kate is a good Mom and she is out trying to make a living with her book tours, etc...yes, one of the kids called her by the babysitters name..so what?!!My daughter would get confused and call me Grandma sometimes when she was small. It certainly wasnt because I wasnt there for her everyday. Those kids are healthy, happy and very much loved as far as I can tell.

She is controlling and talks to John like he is a child (did you hear how she quipped at him last night "John, take off your sunglasses!!" and he jumps like a dog!!!I think his affair was his way of showing Kate that he doesnt always have to jump when she says. I dont think he is very good verbally so his actions certainly speak louder than words. I think she loves him, but unless she changes it will never work.

I won't be watching this painful trainwreck this year. Too bad. The sleazy paparazzi are blood sucking leeches whose only purpose in live is to make things worse for their prey. We're going downhill from here and it is really a shame-so unnecessary.

It's sad to see any family in crisis. My prayers go out to The Gosselins.

I watched last night and am very sorry I did. Jon should be ashamed of his actions whether he physically cheated or not there was a betrayal of trust. Instead of standing up to Kate's constant criticism (which I would have duct taped her mouth shut along time ago if I had been Jon) and not allowing her to treat him badly, he chose to act like an idiot and go out partying. There is not excuse for that! Be a man for once in your life! Grow up and take responsibilty for your family. This whiney excuse of "Kate's so mean to me" crap is just that, a whiney excuse. Did you ever think once that if you took some responsibility, Kate wouldn't have to tell you what to do all the time! And Kate, you aren't off the hook either. So what if you are having to do things "alone". It looks like you had plenty of help with the party and it seems you have time to go to the tanning bed and keep your hair done, etc. I'm not buying that crap. You've got all this money rolling in and you say you do this all for the children. Sure you do! The clothes, the hair, the tan, the make up, the new house, the furniture. You need to be saving some for a college education for the children. Yes you work hard. Anyone with eight children must work hard. If Jon doesn't help you as much as he should, maybe you should just move on. He's a wuss anyway. Don't let your children grow up to be that way. I worry for Maddy. I hope she grows up a much better person than her Dad. They are both at the same emotional age right now, but there is still hope for her. Jon, not so much.

The story stated, "who for the first time in the history of the show were filmed most of the time in separate home-sofa sessions." This is untrue. In a show last year Jon and Kate were interviewed separately because of a 'scheduling conflict' where they could not sit down together.

There are eight little faces that love both their mother and father. Hope that the family works through this to happier places and times.

This show is so incredibly flippin' irritating, has been from the start. How people can watch it is beyond me.

Good luck to that whole sorry family.

I think we're all spectators in a tragic theater, where the best intentions result in profound disaster. When the Gosselins signed on to do the original documentary, they did so to share their experience with an interested and sympathetic public. They can be criticized for lacking foresight, but who could have predicted the scale of factors disrupting their family?

Initially, the original documentary and early show gave a human face to the balooning fertility industry; showed the changing face of the American family; and presented both in a wholly positive, Christian format - both parents were wholesome, young, conservative, educated, trendy (organic foods, Mercedes van) and devoted to their children. Short of expecting them both to be white, or Korean-American, or black, or whatever, they fit the model of American conservative values.

The interracial nature of the Gosselin family is not to be taken lightly. It proved that the offspring of a mixed marriage (Jon's parents) could produce a tame, productive member of society, with a sound moral compass and love of church and country. It was upbeat and positive, progressive, and reassuring to the American hinterland - who is, after all, afraid of so much.

I think the wholesome nature of the show disguised the potentially damaging effects of being put under the lens of an adoring (and critical) public. I think the show's mission made it harder for the family to read warning signs.

When you belong to a church congregation, you permit dozens, even hundreds of people into your life. When you have eight kids, you outsource aspects of their care to family members and friends. It doesn't feel wrong to do so. When the couple started receiving the benefits of fame, for example, and started incorporating their popularity into a business model, it felt like an extension of a natural community. Kate said in the show last night, that she respects viewers who welcome the Gosselin family into their homes. We, for all it's worth, still seem like a interesting and generous extended community (albeit a huge one).

Of course, we aren't a church, family, or community. The little scrutinies and rumors of a congregation are gigantic in the hands of a huge viewing audience. We form opinions about how Kate is to Jon. We criticize Jon's fascination with toys (rollerblades, snowboards, sports cars). We criticize their vanity (hair restoration, grotesque tanning). We pick our favorite kids. This is all perfectly normal, but the degree is not. As our viewing becomes more and more emotional, we crave deeper views into the family. It's one thing to inquire into how Kate makes her home with eight kids, it's another to follow the family into birthday parties, vacations, and father-daughter excursions (and all the intimacy and meltdowns that entails).

We can't see into the dining rooms and nurseries of our neighbors (nor do we demand to), but we can't pull ourselves away from them when they belong to abstract "characters" on TV. The fact that these "characters" are real people actually confuse our behavior, even as it creates challenges for the Gosselins.

Meanwhile, the family has first recognized, then become dependent on, the free services and opportunities they have as a result of weird fame. They suddenly have a nice house, stay home to parent (except for speaking tours and book signings), can afford housekeepers, can afford private school, etc. - all as a reward for having a beautiful family. Their success wasn't hardscrabble; they essentially won a huge popularity contest. It's not hard to see how the Gosselins could fall under this spell.

Equating the sharing of family with the means to provide for the family, I don't doubt that Kate feels she is serving her family best by writing and promoting upbeat memoirs. Growing the brand is synonymous with providing for the family (how many fathers in the 50s and 60s worked overtime, neglecting wives and children, just so the kids could go to college and have nice things?). Being away is regrettable, but it is perceived as a sacrifice, not an abandonment.

In many ways, Kate became the bigger celebrity (Kate carried eight fetuses, Kate abandoned her carreer, Kate cooks and launders, Kate writes the books). Jon is something of a lesser figure, and is forced to smile for the camera and deal with it. Jon has lost both privacy and and his identity. Going back to the nuclear family of Rockwell's America, how many moms felt underappreciated and wasted by disregarding college degrees, abilities, and skills to make a generic home? Well, Jon's experiencing the same thing.

I don't doubt both parents feel they have served their family by pursuing a public life. It's little wonder they believed they would "beat" the divorce rate, the odds of thriving as a celebrity and a family. They probably couldn't see the storm coming because everyone around them was rewarding them with praise.

I have no doubt the attention destroyed their marriage. However, it's better that it happened under these conditions. After all, the tabloids report Jon's drunken infidelities, not teenage experimentation with drugs. Kate is attacked in personal terms, no one is calling one of the kids a monster. Imagine how much worse their hardship would have been if it had been different - if someone was making malicious attacks against one of the children, for example.

One has to be sad and disappointed. But we're really being fools for presuming Jon or Kate's shortcomings are any more selfish than the average family that ends in divorce. Anyone who's bought a tabloid has to blame themselves, too. The poparazzi don't work for satisfaction. We've created a hungry industry that feeds on misery. Now we get a front row seat to the human cost of our grim curiosity.

"ever the problem child, Mady" - won't she appreciate that the news already has her type-cast. Poor child doesn't stand a chance. I hope she gets a really good therapist when she grows up and resents her life.

And can Kate stop degrading her husband publically? Guess not! Is she that stupid that Jon is the source of all problems? Marriage takes two. It takes compromise and humility. Big egos destroy marriages. Maybe when she's done destroying the children's father in front of them, Jon will be so disgusted (at who she REALLY is) he'll not want her anyway. I do hope he gets at least 50% custody.

We need to turn the cameras off, get this precious family out of the media spotlight, and get all of them into counseling. I'm not sure why they do the show anyway, except as a means of supporting the family. But the media attention has destroyed them, just as it has so many others. I hope they can figure out that this hasn't been good for them, find someone who can help weather this rough time, and get back to whatever "normal" means for a family with 8 children. I wish them all the best, I truly do.

Oh, and by the way, everyone who watches shows like this bears some responsibility for the frenzy that develops, which eventually leads to the crash and burn of otherwise good people.